Spinward Marches (Lunion etc.) Fleet deployments and (canon) names

[Prodromoi]

Fleet deployments and squadron movements aren't the scale I usually work on, in my games. I tend to concentrate on smaller scale stuff while the "big stuff" provides the background. Which leads to this question...

I'm going to reference some Imperial Navy fleet/detachments "on maneouvres" in my campaign. It's 1106 and things are definitely getting tense out there. I've got (most of) the Fifth Frontier War books, including the main one, but if this is answered in them I've missed it.

Are any of the flagships (dreadnoughts, battleships) named, or any of the fleets specifically named? For context I want to refer to, when my chaps jump into system, one of the big fleets popping up on their sensors, perhaps refuelling at the gas giant before continuinng "on maneouvres". So I'd like to refer to it as "the 7th fleet" (or whatever) or "the Dreadnought Barkas and its support vessels".

Are there canon names for the dreadnoughts, battleships or fleets/batrons in the Lunion subsector already out there, which I can use? Yes, I can make up names otherwise, and I will if I have to - but if existing stuff has been introduced into canon, then I'd like to 'borrow' that.

Thanks in advance.
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[Vormaerin]

The ships are not generally named in any sourcebooks unless one is specifically referred to in an adventure, rumor, or TAS news dispatch.

Subsector Fleets are generally given numbers. I don't have my books handy (I'm at work ) to see what the Lunion Fleet's designation is (or if it's a detachment of an adjoining fleet, as sometimes happens). If no one answers before then, I'll check when I get home tonight.

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

This site says :

The Lunion Subsector is defended by 43rd Fleet. The fleet has recently been augmented by a squadron of Ulanii class experimental strike cruisers, for which capabilities and precise role remain classified military secrets.The Ling-Standard Products shipyards at Lunion and Strouden are the major shipbuilding points within the entire Spinward Marches Sector. The excellent workmanship, combined with the TL–13 technology, makes LSP products highly sought after.

 

[Prodromoi]

This site says :

Appreciated, and I might use that. I'm hoping to potentially publish, so am hoping to stick to full-canon stuff.

 

[collins355]

This was the laydown published in MegaTrav 'Rebellion Sourcebook'. There are a few furfies (it wouldn't be MegaTrav without some errata!), but Lunion is garrisoned by 43rd Fleet.

 

[collins355]

The original Classic Traveller 'Spinward Marches Campaign', however, has this to say about actual wartime ops in Lunion and vicinity - so make of the different fleets involved what you will.

 

[collins355]

SMC has this map showing the fleet starting positions at commencement of the war.

 

[rinku]

Don't forget the pre- and post- war deployments do not have to match up at all. Some of those fleets may well have been disbanded or deployed to new trouble spots. And it can't be emphasized enough that between those two eras a major multi-year naval conflict has occurred. Fleets move, fleets die. New fleets arrive.

the 1107 start map is likely the best reference for 1106.

As far as ship names go, there's only a small handful of ships with published names, though there does tend to be some info about area of operation for those we do have (i.e. Azhanti High Lightning, Kinunir, Gazelle).

The Fifth Frontier War board game drills down deployment to the squadron level. That's still a great pre-war resource, although it only covers a portion of the map and unfortunately that does not include Lunion. So most of the action involving the rimward half of the Marches is out of scope.

 

[collins355]

And FFW boardgame does not specify where the various fleets and squadrons in the countermix have to be located. That is entirely (well, almost entirely) up to the player.

Only the colonial squadrons and the AssaultRon deployed to deal with the insurgency on Efate are directed deployments. Duke Norris at Regina is the only consistent admiral.

Each time you play the game, you can have an utterly different deployment, including because there is a random draw of admirals and fleets. Hence the refrain of colleagues on this forum that FFW boardgame is not canon. I agree with them, in this small regard.

 

[collins355]

And to note that SMC of course includes maps showing the locations of fleets up to and including the armistice. 213 Fleet is still in Lunion or thereabouts as at the end of the war, according to that source.

 

[rinku]

And FFW boardgame does not specify where the various fleets and squadrons in the countermix have to be located. That is entirely (well, almost entirely) up to the player.

Only the colonial squadrons and the AssaultRon deployed to deal with the insurgency on Efate are directed deployments. Duke Norris at Regina is the only consistent admiral.

Each time you play the game, you can have an utterly different deployment, including because there is a random draw of admirals and fleets. Hence the refrain of colleagues on this forum that FFW boardgame is not canon. I agree with them, in this small regard.

Given that the OP is really just looking for suggestions, I think it's still of value.

There may also be some confusion between fleet grades, too. The 1116 map is clearly including the subsector level fleets, but the SMC maps appear to be using larger formations. So the 43rd fleet might just be the local subsector garrison, which in 1106 was subordinate to the regional fleet command of 213.

 

[Prodromoi]

Very useful stuff, thank you chaps. I knew I'd seen some deployment information in my older books, but haven't yet had the chance to work through them all hunting for this. Very helpful - thank you.

 

[Prodromoi]

SMC has this map showing the fleet starting positions at commencement of the war.
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I think this is the map I half-remembered having seen. Thank you.

I'm looking at SMC now but can't see (at least on pages 8-15) a key that identifies the letters on the map (G, S, J, N etc.). I'm assuming these would be Sword World fleets. But is there a key anywhere that relates to the maps?