Dreadnoughts, Dreadnoughts everywhere.... why?

[Da Boss]

A Battleship?....... the name itself conjures images of some giant, sleek, warship similar yet different to the federation class dreadnought jumping out of warp, it's mighty phaser banks and titanic volleys of photon torpedoes swatting D7'S like flies and making captains of C8's divert all power to shields.
Also got three guys interested/seriously thinking about starting Star fleet, also got them thinking about BFG but one is defiantly leaning towards Call to arms, will show him the war era ships and the main rule book on Monday so he can see the non federation ships.
How many more ships are roughly planned for the differnt empires? Are we going to see more federation war era ships?

Keep in mind that the Battleships tend to be rather un-maneuverable, so as long as you can stay out of their heavy weapon arcs, you should be able to put the hurt on them. Assuming the phasers don't discourage you. Not to be taken lightly, but they aren't going to slaughter cruisers wholesale (unless said cruisers do something stupid). :lol:

One word - drones................

 

[Zarathustra Suicune]

I'm sorry, but the Mars look like it will be awesome! How are the rules for it going to be released for it? I only got my hardback rule book a couple of months ago, also, size wise hoe does it compare to the rest of the fleet similar size to the dreadnought?

 

[billclo]

One word - drones................

Bah, we have drones of our own. Unless you're talking about Gorns. :lol:

 

[archon96]

gorn battleship = type d plasma which can be given the anti drone trait.

 

[Allerka]

I'm sorry, but the Mars look like it will be awesome! How are the rules for it going to be released for it? I only got my hardback rule book a couple of months ago, also, size wise hoe does it compare to the rest of the fleet similar size to the dreadnought?

If the preview pictures were any indication, it's probably a little bit bigger than a dreadnought.

 

[Keeper Nilbog]

What - we actually get D-racks :?: :? .

 

[Da Boss]

How many Drone racks does a Mars Class get in SFB?

 

[scoutdad]

Six drone racks...

 

[Da Boss]

Interesting - so the Battleships are about on a par with Dreadnoughts with regard to Drones?

 

[scoutdad]

Interesting - so the Battleships are about on a par with Dreadnoughts with regard to Drones?

Sorry... missed a line of boxes:

Federation: 9 Drones + 0 ADD
Klingon: 8 Drones + 2 ADD
Kzinti: 10 Drones + 2 ADD
Romulan: 2x Pl-R, 3x Pl-S, 2x Pl-F, 4x Pl-D
Gorn: 2x Pl-R, 3x Pl-S, 2x Pl-F, 4x Pl-D

 

[Nerroth]

I'm sorry, but the Mars look like it will be awesome! How are the rules for it going to be released for it? I only got my hardback rule book a couple of months ago, also, size wise hoe does it compare to the rest of the fleet similar size to the dreadnought?

I don't have the Ship Card (or SSD) to hand at the moment; but generally, Alpha Octant battleships would, in ACtA:SF terms, average around a hundred Damage points, sitting behind Shield scores of 45 or thereabouts.

(In the case of the Mars-class BB, the additional mass beyond that seen on the DNG is mostly in the secondary hull; the saucer sections on both classes are more or less the same, save for the additional bulk needed to mount two warp nacelles on the BB's saucer compared to the DNG's one.)


Also, there have been previews in SFB (and to a much lesser extent in FC) of a light battleship class; ships which have the same engines as standard BBs, but cut down on the hull volume and number of weapon mounts in order to allow the ship to gain the Fast Trait. (This is the same trick that the Fed DNL uses relative to the DNG.)

So, for example, the ISC battleship would have a Damage score of 100 if and when it gets ported over; while the Concordium's light battleship would have 80 Damage points (but keep the same Shield score of 45) and shave off some of its phaser and plasma mounts, all in exchange for the ability to go Fast.

Might be a while before we see any BBLs show up over here, though.

 

[Da Boss]

Interesting - so the Battleships are about on a par with Dreadnoughts with regard to Drones?

Sorry... missed a line of boxes:

Federation: 9 Drones + 0 ADD
Klingon: 8 Drones + 2 ADD
Kzinti: 10 Drones + 2 ADD

8-10 turreted drones every turn plus other weapons should kill cruisers pretty quickly I would think? - especially as two other ships can also fire at them?

 

[AdmiralGrafSpee]

I see this thread has strayed quite far from the original topic, however if I could go back to it, I think its more of "Why are we getting ships we don't need anymore of in each box set". For me that's mostly DN's and BC's (got enough of each with just the fleet box and the first squadron box), and no Battleships will not change that I don't need anymore of them.

Any chance that Mongoose will be able to make up their own box sets (outside of the fleet box) that package miniatures together in a different way than the antiquated ADB sets? I suspect, but don't know, that the fleet boxes sold very well, and I don't see why making up your own sets wouldn't also fair well.

For example how about a federation box with:

DW, NCL, NCA, NCF and Heavy CC?

I'd buy 2 of those for sure.

-Tim

 

[SneakyPete]

If BB's can fire 8-9 drones I see major problems with drone balance in the future, not that drone balance is all that good as is.

Perhaps if very large ships like DN's and BB's could be targeted by more than 3 enemy ships (not factoring in the scout rules) it would help restore the balance.

It would be worth play testing at least I think.