Deneb Sector and Solomani Rim Now Available

[MongooseMatt]

Both Deneb Sector and Solomani Rim are now available to order from our web site. Pre-orders have already been sent off, and those of you in the UK should start seeing them arrive tomorrow.

Part of the Great Rift, Deneb Sector is nevertheless a vitally important link in the Imperium, forming the major route between the Imperial Core and the Spinward Marches. Those from the core see the sector as barbaric while those in the Marches view it as decadent and past its age. Home to one of the brightest stars in the entire galaxy, Deneb is a sector of wonder and fortune…

You can grab a copy at http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/us/rpgs/traveller/the-third-imperium/deneb-sector.html

The Solomani Rim contains a history and description of this sector. A perfect setting for campaigns that focus on espionage, trading or political machinations, the Solomani Rim includes detailed information on the competing Imperial and Solomani leaders, government agencies, corporations, political factions and military or guerrilla forces that operate within the sector.

A copy of Solomani Rim can be yours at http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/us/rpgs/traveller/the-third-imperium/solomani-rim.html

 

[lastbesthope]

Any idea when Esdevium will get them?

LBH

 

[2330ADUSA1]

Yes I just ordered the HC for each and can't wait to add them to my Library!

 

[Treebore]

Someone on RPG.net is claiming that the errors in the Solomani book are horrible. Can anyone back that up, or is this just another case of 10 to 15 errors throughout the whole book being blown way out of proportion?

 

[Egil Skallagrimsson]

Someone on RPG.net is claiming that the errors in the Solomani book are horrible. Can anyone back that up, or is this just another case of 10 to 15 errors throughout the whole book being blown way out of proportion?

Blown out of proportion, I feel.

If they mean the Solomani alien module, there are a few errors that have already been mentioned on here, but not many and nothing that isn't pretty obvious.

If they mean the Solomani Rim sector guide, on a quick read through can't see any problems beyond a few minor typos.

Put another way, there have been a number of MGT products that have been badly written and apparently not proof read (yes, Sword Worlds, CSC and Robot, we mean you), so much so that parts don't make sense, there are others that have been carefully written and contain few if any communication problems (the Alien Modules, the Spinward Marches, etc, take a bow), both Solomani books are much closer to the later than the former.

Egil

 

[Treebore]

I must be oblivious, or just so used to Traveller being riddled with editing mistakes (Yes, including Classic) that I am just conditioned to fix it and move on. I say that because I made heavy use of Robots and CSC in my just recently concluded campaign, and I do not recall finding any mistakes that bothered me. Meaning that I couldn't make a decision about right there on the spot, and move on. I have been doing that since day one of playing Traveller. Which for me was in the early 80's, with Classic, and no help from the internet.

So maybe thats why, I am used to solving the problems myself, so don't really think about it anymore. Only thing Mongoose has done that really bugged me was Ancients, and they offered up a fair fix in as timely a fashion as possible.

Maybe Mongoose should take the time to hand out a few free PDF's to people willing to agree to read through and help find errors before the book is sent to the printers. Hopefully get a decent sized pool so they don't have to rely on the same group with every book. Fresh outside eyes can never hurt.

When your the writer, or someone who edits and then re edits, you easily get to a point where you mentally correct mistakes without actually noting them down and actually correcting them.

 

[Egil Skallagrimsson]

I must be oblivious, or just so used to Traveller being riddled with editing mistakes (Yes, including Classic) that I am just conditioned to fix it and move on. I say that because I made heavy use of Robots and CSC in my just recently concluded campaign, and I do not recall finding any mistakes that bothered me. Meaning that I couldn't make a decision about right there on the spot, and move on. I have been doing that since day one of playing Traveller. Which for me was in the early 80's, with Classic, and no help from the internet.

Well, if you are happy with CSC and Robots the Solomani books are going to pose no problems.

More broadly, yes, I am fully able to "fix" things, iron out mistakes etc, and have done so since I was a teenager, but should a game resource be a set of puzzles that requires research and rule adjustments to make work? If I have to rewrite a lot of it anyway, why did I buy the product and not just write my own anywary. I am more bothered about errors and poor proof reading now than I was then, perhaps I have become a bad tempered old man, but, more likely, I am more aware of money and sometimes resent paying for something that needs fixing. I am also aware that in most jobs I have done, people who present "broken" work, wether a document or a repair, don't last very long.

Egil

 

[Treebore]

Well, I haven't ran into anything where I needed to do a lot of rewriting. If I did that would bug me too. Everything I have come across has been small, taking a few moments of thought. Or spelling errors still close enough to what it was supposed to be to easily correct as I read.

Plus people on other forums, and some times this one, act like Mongoose is the only one with such problems. I guess most people who play Traveller do not play 4E D&D, which had over 100 pages of errata fixes in its first year or two, with far fewer books than Mongoose has. The total errata I have seen for Mongoose still is less than 100 pages.

Big bad Paizo has a lot of errata, and even they missed complete chapters like Mongoose did with Ancients. So I don't know what all the publishers problems are, but they all have them. I have heard people claim GURPS is pretty errata free, but I own very little done by them, and use it very rarely, so have never even had to look for any errata they may have.

This idea that I see so many posters on the various boards push, that Mongoose is the worst at editing around, is very wrong. The biggest company on the block is the worst.

I wish Mongoose and the other publishers would get closer to "perfection", but for whatever reasons they have not, and it has yet to ruin my game experience, so I will continue to deal with it.

 

[Egil Skallagrimsson]

Ouch, sounds like 4ed D&D is a mass of problems, glad we stuck with AD&D (no significant errata in the main books, infact, the TSR products of that era were almost without glitch)! :lol: I note that the "real and original" DMG, PH and MM have just been reprinted, to raise money for a statue to Gygax. Perhaps an opportunity to displace later editions of D&D? 8)

Actually, you are quite right in so far that I have little to compare the proof reading etc in MgT to. I have bought very little rpg wise for years (some Cthulhu, 4th ed Pendragon (and that must have be 10 years old) and some of its supplements), tending to stick with AD&D, some 3rd ed (Games Workshop) RQ and various homebrew games until a chance discovery in the FNGS ignited an interest in MgT Trav. And as I now have copies of most MgT books perhaps I am over aware of problems with with Trav stuff, and ignorant of problems in the products of other companies.

You asked for opinions on the numbers of errors in the Solomani Rim book, I said that it was, basically, fine, and pointed out that the quality of writing, proof reading and editing in the MgT books is uneven.

Egil

Edit. On reflection, should gamers accept a lower quality of finished product from rpg firms than we would from other publishers? Does the defence that "other firms are much worse" reflect poorly on the industry as a whole?

 

[shadows3]

I agree there is not that many errors found in my copies of Traveller! Good job mongoose and I look forward to more 3rd Imp books in the near future

 

[RichardP]

Has anyone seen these in gaming stores yet as hardcopy? :?:

 

[2330ADUSA1]

I have both in my hot hands here at my home. I read them and they look nice and etc. Well worth buying regardless.

 

[RichardP]

Trying to buy them, but no sign yet in UK game shops

 

[IanBruntlett]

Deneb sector and Solomani Rim have disappeared from the Release Schedule completely!

What's going on?

 

[Ewan]

Deneb sector and Solomani Rim have disappeared from the Release Schedule completely!

What's going on?

I would guess that in Mongoose Publishing eyes they are now available as they were in their online shop in August and we are now in October.

In my opinion they should still be on the release schedule until they are available in my local games store and a general release date given.

 

[lastbesthope]

Deneb sector and Solomani Rim have disappeared from the Release Schedule completely!

What's going on?

I would guess that in Mongoose Publishing eyes they are now available as they were in their online shop in August and we are now in October.

In my opinion they should still be on the release schedule until they are available in my local games store and a general release date given.

+1

LBH

 

[RichardP]

Apparently mongoose have not done a print run for general distribution to game stores at the moment. They say they will getting a print run done soon but no dates. At the moment if you want a copy its either the PDF version or a hardcopy on direct mail order from mongoose.

Less than ideal and bad for local game shops

 

[lastbesthope]

Yeah,

I like to support my local gaming shop. If I have to I'll store up a list and make a shopping run to a Club Mongnoose. Or with the new flat rate shipping just order it mail order, but I much prefer to buy from my FLGS

LBH

 

[lastbesthope]

Back in the day Mongoose had a bit on their webiste about supporting the brick and mortar (generic term, not the free pdf scheme), can't find it any more. ANd the lack of a proper distribution run speaks volumes.

LBH

 

[IanBruntlett]

I've looked at the prices on Amazon UK and from Mongoose. If I buy Deneb sector and Solomani Rim then it's cheaper to buy from Mongoose. Cheapest of all is my FLGS.

I really want to support my FLGS. I really want to support Mongoose.