Darrian Harmonic Light Cruiser 30,000 tons TL 15

[mavikfelna]

Request from Michael Hunter on Facebook for a Darrian Harmonic light cruiser used for exploration and observation.
The ship is built to be a good mix between survey cruiser, observation and diplomacy ship, and combat light cruiser. It has the typical Darrian focus on defense and crew protection as well as the best stealth and a black globe generator for getting into and moving around in the target system.
While the ship's primary mission is not combat, it is more than capable of holding its own and extracting itself from a situation gone bad. Too small to mount a Meson spinal effectively, it mounts a Particle Cannon spinal, along with 50 particle barbettes as it's primary armament. This is backed up by 8 large missile bays and 100 pulse laser turrets. 50 sandcasters and 3 point defense batteries compliment the defense.
The crew compliment of 603 includes an observation and diplomatic team of 6 for first contact and other diplomatic situations.
The ship mounts 38 automated lifeboats placed strategically throughout the hull in case of catastrophic failure of the hull.
2 Ship's Boats provide general use for simple missions, while 2 Modular Cutters with 2 extra modules, provide alot of flexibility. The modules carried typically include a passenger module, cargo module and a survey module for each cutter. Without a dedicated hanger, the modules must be changed by hand outside the vessel by the craft's maintenance crew.
The ship's marines provide onboard defense, diplomatic protection and damage control functions.

 

[Endie]

Request from Michael Hunter on Facebook for a Darrian Harmonic light cruiser used for exploration and observation.
The ship is built to be a good mix between survey cruiser, observation and diplomacy ship, and combat light cruiser. It has the typical Darrian focus on defense and crew protection as well as the best stealth and a black globe generator for getting into and moving around in the target system.
While the ship's primary mission is not combat, it is more than capable of holding its own and extracting itself from a situation gone bad. Too small to mount a Meson spinal effectively, it mounts a Particle Cannon spinal, along with 50 particle barbettes as it's primary armament. This is backed up by 8 large missile bays and 100 pulse laser turrets. 50 sandcasters and 3 point defense batteries compliment the defense.
The crew compliment of 603 includes an observation and diplomatic team of 6 for first contact and other diplomatic situations.
The ship mounts 38 automated lifeboats placed strategically throughout the hull in case of catastrophic failure of the hull.
2 Ship's Boats provide general use for simple missions, while 2 Modular Cutters with 2 extra modules, provide alot of flexibility. The modules carried typically include a passenger module, cargo module and a survey module for each cutter. Without a dedicated hanger, the modules must be changed by hand outside the vessel by the craft's maintenance crew.
The ship's marines provide onboard defense, diplomatic protection and damage control functions.

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I see that you get the same problem I do with @Arkathan's spreadsheet's narrative section on the summary page dropping the start of paragraphs. Weirdly, I get it on my laptop but not my desktop, which works fine.

 

[Sigtrygg]

Darrian shipbuilding is TL13 at best in 1105, they buy TL15 capital ships from the Imperium.

A relic design could be TL16 with experimental TL17/18 stuff, now that would be an interesting project.

Or this could be the first of a new class, since it is likely the upper limit of current Darrian ship construction

 

[AndrewW]

Darrian shipbuilding is TL13 at best in 1105, they buy TL15 ships from the Imperium.

A relic design could be TL16 with experimental TL17/18 stuff, now that would be an interesting project.

As the timeline advances into the 5th frontier war they can do a limited amount of TL16.

 

[Arkathan]

I see that you get the same problem I do with @Arkathan's spreadsheet's narrative section on the summary page dropping the start of paragraphs. Weirdly, I get it on my laptop but not my desktop, which works fine.

If you can send some examples of the problem by IM, I may be able to fix it in the next release. Need both the Narrative field and the summary output so I can count characters.
For the summary, I am brute forcing the narrative field from the Ship's Info tab into multiple lines of text on the Summary tab by snipping pieces as I go. Not elegant, but works most of the time - on my desktop.
Do you have a different version of Excel/other sheet converted on the two?

 

[Endie]

If you can send some examples of the problem by IM, I may be able to fix it in the next release. Need both the Narrative field and the summary output so I can count characters.
For the summary, I am brute forcing the narrative field from the Ship's Info tab into multiple lines of text on the Summary tab by snipping pieces as I go. Not elegant, but works most of the time - on my desktop.
Do you have a different version of Excel/other sheet converted on the two?

I simply assumed that it was some variation on my end or a failure of Excel to deal with a driver or the like, not your fault, because I can open the same sheet (they're all stored on OneDrive) on two machines and it works on one but formats incorrectly on the other. I'll certainly send you an example or two, though!

 

[Sigtrygg]

As the timeline advances into the 5th frontier war they can do a limited amount of TL16.

No, they can't. Or rater they can't build capital ships as yet.

Of course by MgT rules the Imperium can do limited TL16 on any TL15 world with a smattering of TL17... those rules really need changing.

Reading the original CT Alien Module...

"The Darrian starship construction yards are capable of constructing tech 15 starships. Jump-6 capability is also possible, although the ships are most often constructed with jump-3 or less."

This is the lie, the deception, much like the lie that the Aslan are a major race and discovered jump themselves. It is almost immediately contradicted by the following (and later canon)

"Modern Technology: Modern Darrian technology is generally about tech level 13 for local products with a liberal sprinkling of tech level 14-15 products that are locally produced or imported from the Imperium. Most of the merchant ships are tech level 13, and the Navy is usually about the same with two very important exceptions. Top ships of the line are now imported from the lmperium (under an Imperial military aid program), and some technicians have come with them to maintain them. The Darrian Navy maintains two or three squadrons of tech level 16 warships of pre-Maghiz manufacture. These ships 16 warships were recovered from a stockpile of ships in the outer Darrian system in 390; they have been in service since."

And even those TL16 warships are a lie as some of them are merchant ships that have had weapons added.

If they can build new TL15 capital warships in MgT then that is a very major change to the setting, as even by the 1200s Darrian was still only TL15, with TL16 ships delivered by the Regency to maintain a fiction of Darrian at TL16. Is Mongoose really intent on overwriting the entirety of CT canon?

Is an exploration cruiser at 30kt a capital ship... I would say not.

 

[collins355]

CT Alien module Darrians page 17:

 

[collins355]

And...

 

[Sigtrygg]

CT Alien module Darrians page 17:
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This is an in-setting lie, as I showed in my edited post, it is a fiction presented by the unreliable narrator.

 

[Sigtrygg]

And...
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And this is the bit that contradicts they build new TL15, they build TL13 and import TL15, plus the engineers and spares needed to maintain them.

They wouldn't need to import engineers if they could do it themselves, would they...

 

[Sigtrygg]

I will add that there is canon reference to Darrian building its own TL15 escort class, but all capital ships come from the Imperium.

I would happily go along with this being the first of its kind - it is a really nice design by the way. The first Darrian exploratory cruiser for centuries.

I would get rid of the particle spinal though, several large bays with advantages is a better weapon system choice, either meson or particle. If meson extend the range, if particle go with... hmm, difficult to say.

 

[mavikfelna]

If you can send some examples of the problem by IM, I may be able to fix it in the next release. Need both the Narrative field and the summary output so I can count characters.
For the summary, I am brute forcing the narrative field from the Ship's Info tab into multiple lines of text on the Summary tab by snipping pieces as I go. Not elegant, but works most of the time - on my desktop.
Do you have a different version of Excel/other sheet converted on the two?

@Arkathan Here is the .zip. Hope it helps!

 

[Terry Mixon]

If you can send some examples of the problem by IM, I may be able to fix it in the next release. Need both the Narrative field and the summary output so I can count characters.
For the summary, I am brute forcing the narrative field from the Ship's Info tab into multiple lines of text on the Summary tab by snipping pieces as I go. Not elegant, but works most of the time - on my desktop.
Do you have a different version of Excel/other sheet converted on the two?

It happens when you introduce line breaks into it. That makes it display that behavior.

 

[mavikfelna]

I will add that there is canon reference to Darrian building its own TL15 escort class, but all capital ships come from the Imperium.

I would happily go along with this being the first of its kind - it is a really nice design by the way. The first Darrian exploratory cruiser for centuries.

I would get rid of the particle spinal though, several large bays with advantages is a better weapon system choice, either meson or particle. If meson extend the range, if particle go with... hmm, difficult to say.

The requestor specifically wanted a spinal so I included it. Some large meson bays with extended range would likely be more combat effective.

I have no problem with this being a new class designed and built with Imperial help. But it did need to have the Darrian personnel safety focus so it couldn't just be a refit of regular Imperial design. And I don't think the Imperium has a similar kind of large exploration focused light cruiser, most of the scout cruisers are 3000-10000 tons in my memory. Unless you look at a conversion like Deepnight Endeavor of course. This design isn't as deep long range focused but It's got the same kind of focus on going out with enough firepower to keep it alive in all but the direst of circumstances and perform survey, science, contact and diplomacy.

 

[Sigtrygg]

Like I said, it is a nice design for an explorer

 

[Endie]

It happens when you introduce line breaks into it. That makes it display that behavior.

Yes, it is clearly related to line breaks (possibly the use of alt-enter, which in some Office 365 applications adds a different CRLF type to an actual use of enter, with different behaviour, but which is necessary in Excel to stop it tabbing forward) but it is odd that it happens on some platforms and not others. I sent Arkathan some screenshots and a file by IM, as he requested, last night.

 

[ross]

Is an exploration cruiser at 30kt a capital ship... I would say not.

Canon can be helpful or harmful. It could also be pedantic. IMTU I can make my own choices. Make ships my own way, and my players can have a good time. So can you and yours.

 

[Sigtrygg]

I can completely ignore the Maghiz and give Darrian TL16 warships with CI prototype brains, but we are then no longer in a shared universe as we have completely different interpretations of what it meant to be the common frame of reference.

 

[ross]

I can completely ignore the Maghiz and give Darrian TL16 warships with CI prototype brains, but we are then no longer in a shared universe as we have completely different interpretations of what it meant to be the common frame of reference.

Well that's kind of how Traveller has worked since 1977. We start with some assumptions and every crew and GM effects and changes to suit their tastes and ideas.