Crusade EA: Escort Carrier

[Epaminondas]

My intent in making it weak in weaponry was to justify the skirmish level, and to represent it isn't a true military hull. Its essentially a mass producable hanger with engines, with some AF weaponry and nothing else.

Considering 6 wings of fighters for the same PL cost; perhaps it should have 5-6 wings instead.

Perhaps make it carrier 2 as well.

It's job isn't to be a posidon replacement- its job is to buff the fighter screen for fleets, convoys, planets etc. Good hull for a colony's defense force as well- no expendables, and the fighters are a good police, antipirate, misc. force.

 

[Davesaint]

My intent in making it weak in weaponry was to justify the skirmish level, and to represent it isn't a true military hull. Its essentially a mass producable hanger with engines, with some AF weaponry and nothing else.

Considering 6 wings of fighters for the same PL cost; perhaps it should have 5-6 wings instead.

Perhaps make it carrier 2 as well.

It's job isn't to be a posidon replacement- its job is to buff the fighter screen for fleets, convoys, planets etc. Good hull for a colony's defense force as well- no expendables, and the fighters are a good police, antipirate, misc. force.

Except that the Crusade era EA really aren't that light in fighters. Every Hermes carries one after all.

Dave

 

[Target]

My intent in making it weak in weaponry was to justify the skirmish level, and to represent it isn't a true military hull. Its essentially a mass producable hanger with engines, with some AF weaponry and nothing else.

Considering 6 wings of fighters for the same PL cost; perhaps it should have 5-6 wings instead.

Perhaps make it carrier 2 as well.

It's job isn't to be a posidon replacement- its job is to buff the fighter screen for fleets, convoys, planets etc. Good hull for a colony's defense force as well- no expendables, and the fighters are a good police, antipirate, misc. force.

Except that the Crusade era EA really aren't that light in fighters. Every Hermes carries one after all.

Dave

For EA they are.
can get 1 at patrol on hermes
1 at skrimish hyperion assualt
1 on hyperion or 6 on explorer at raid ( why take a explorer)
4 on Omega or 2 on Marathon
It's hard to get a decent amount of fighters especially at lower priorities.

I think it would be a good idea if nearly all races had acess a carrier type ship eg freighter with fighters instead of purchasing wings or more fighters were placed on ships.

 

[Epaminondas]

Hyperion AC doesn't carry any fighters.

3rd Age fleet gets
Hermes 1
Hyperion 1
Nova 4
Omega 4
advenger 8

5 point raid average fleet has 12-16 fighters

Crusade gets
hermes 1
hyperion/delphi 1
marathon 2
omega 4

You will be lucky to have half the fighters at a 5 point raid compared to a 3rd age fleet.

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With the additional removal of the advenger; your only real fighter support comes from omegas; which are weak compared to apollo and marathon class ships.

Considering only having one real choice at patrol and skirmish; a skirmish level escort carrier fufills two roles- initative sink, and fighter screen.

EA goes from being one of the premier fighter fleets in early and 3rd age lists to being one of the weakest in crusade.

 

[Davesaint]

Hyperion AC doesn't carry any fighters.

3rd Age fleet gets
Hermes 1
Hyperion 1
Nova 4
Omega 4
advenger 8

5 point raid average fleet has 12-16 fighters

Crusade gets
hermes 1
hyperion/delphi 1
marathon 2
omega 4

You will be lucky to have half the fighters at a 5 point raid compared to a 3rd age fleet.

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With the additional removal of the advenger; your only real fighter support comes from omegas; which are weak compared to apollo and marathon class ships.

Considering only having one real choice at patrol and skirmish; a skirmish level escort carrier fufills two roles- initative sink, and fighter screen.

EA goes from being one of the premier fighter fleets in early and 3rd age lists to being one of the weakest in crusade.

It really depends on what you take.

Crusade era fleet
2 Hyperions
3 Olympus
6 Hermes
Gives you 8 T-bolts which isn't that bad.
Plus you could always swap a Hermes for a Wing of T-bolts to bring you up to 10.

Dave

 

[Chernobyl]

For EA they are.
can get 1 at patrol on hermes
1 at skrimish hyperion assualt
1 on hyperion or 6 on explorer at raid ( why take a explorer)
4 on Omega or 2 on Marathon
It's hard to get a decent amount of fighters especially at lower priorities.

I think it would be a good idea if nearly all races had acess a carrier type ship eg freighter with fighters instead of purchasing wings or more fighters were placed on ships.

and a poseidon comes with 16? :lol:

point taken though, withought a nova or avenger it does get a little harder at lower PL.

Chern

 

[Target]

The problem with the crusade fleet is it more like narn fleet with all it's boresights, EA is about fighters, missles mainly.
To get lots of missles has to either use a crap load of Hermes ( not a bad thing except they die extremly quick) or Apollo at Battle.
The Poseidon is the only ship with lots of fighters & it' War lvl and a easy target.
Just Bring back the Nova & Olympus & the fleet is EA again.