Colorado versus Nagato

[timberwolf a]

Okay,

PL=War
Dam=36/12
Crew=84/28

Speed 4
Target 4
Armour 5

Special traits aircraft 3, torpedo belt.

4 turrets A,B,X,Y (2X16) 2 AD, 3 DD per turret. AP special
Range 35

Nagato
PL=Battle
Damage 40/13
Crew 53/17

Speed 5
Target 4
Armour 5

Special traits aircraft 3, Armored deck, torpedo belt

4 turrets A,B,X,Y (3X16) 2 AD, 3DD, per turret. AP special.
Range 43

Okay,

Now this confuses me. Why is the Colorado which has an inservice date of 1920 like the Nagato but does not have the range, speed, and most importantly, ARMORED DECK, at WAR priority level compared to the Nagato which is at Battle priority level. :shock: :?

Is the Colorado not being shown as having the radar trait?

Clarification would be greatly appreciated.[/u]

 

[Court Jester]

I blame the magic bean method of determining PL's...

 

[timberwolf a]

Well if that's the case then the Nagato should be a WAR PL ship. It has the same total ADxDD potentianl as the North Carolina and South Dakota classes with better range. The Dakotas finally get the armored deck so are equal in that area. The only thing is that the two US classes get Radar. Something screwy goin' on here.

 

[Ben2]

Depending on the scenario Radar can make a huge difference. And even in calm seas during the day it lets you see through smoke, which again makes a huge difference.
Radar is probably the reason why.

The Nagato is also the best Battle level ship in the game, so the margins between that and war level ships will be small.

 

[E Nicely]

You can expect those PL inequlities to be dealt with in the supplement.

 

[Court Jester]

I'm gonna say it because I am sure someone els will if I don't... 8)

Should we not have been able to expect these inequlities to be worked out for the original game... :wink:

 

[E Nicely]

You actually took the time to post that reply?

 

[Court Jester]

No it magically happened...

 

[BuShips]

To me, it is easily understood. The Nagato's crew is shorter, and has a harder time seeing the horizon. Second, the USN capital ships routinely had Coca-Cola machines and ice cream for the crew. This helped in morale and gave them more confidence in battle. Third, the Japanese could see (using their very efficient optics) the U.S. crew eating ice cream and enjoying a refreshing soda and this had a demoralising effect upon the Nagato's crew. Fourth, "You can expect those PL inequlities to be dealt with in the supplement." :wink:

 

[timberwolf a]

So this one along with others slipped through the cracks. Couldn't it have been faqed? :?

 

[Leadman]

The point is that it's being addressed in the supplement along with other issues. As you will see, the FAQ wasn't the best way to handle the issue.

Dannie

 

[timberwolf a]

Is there a time frame that can be said when the supplement will be released to the public? 2008? Later this year?

 

[juggler69uk]

Is there a time frame that can be said when the supplement will be released to the public? 2008? Later this year?

As long as its complete when its released, No need to rush the release and have more issues to address due to new inequalities of PL due to new ship additions

 

[DM]

Depends what you mean by "complete". The current expanded RN list by itself runs to 48 pages and thats a basic Word file - not translated into VAS format which would increase the page count a lot! Obviously soem trimming will be required.

 

[juggler69uk]

Depends what you mean by "complete". The current expanded RN list by itself runs to 48 pages and thats a basic Word file - not translated into VAS format which would increase the page count a lot! Obviously soem trimming will be required.

Perhaps complete may be a VAS format for that which they deem major plus a list of things in table format at the end for those that didnt make it to full VAS format

 

[timberwolf a]

So it sounds like MAYBE late this year at the EARLIEST.

 

[Ben2]

If it needs to be 300 pages so be it. Matt has mentioned how they can do customised print runs which confuses the price point. I'd buy and use a 300 pages VaS supplement.

Though obviously the question is whether anyone else will.

 

[jfox61]

So long as it is a full OOB list for all antoagonists in the conflict then I certainly would, regardless of price. Reason being I have possibly 60 or 70 fully painted minis that can't be used yet in VAS simply because there are no stats for them

 

[DM]

So long as it is a full OOB list for all antoagonists in the conflict then I certainly would

That would be many hundreds of pages

 

[Alexb83]

I'm getting forebodings... of hundreds and hundreds of ships matched up at the wrong PLs

Seriously though, I look forward to more ships - my navwar fleet isn't that expansive, but there are many in it that I can't currently use in VaS.