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[locarno24]

my adira managed to one turn kill a sharlin with just its beam and particle arrays meanwhile heavily damaging 2 teshlans and a veshetan as well.

A Sharlin does have a saving throw on a single d6. It's called the 'stealth 5+'

 

[Da Boss]

Destroyer is BETTER than heavy cruiser. Hyperion is heavy cruiser and it's raid.

If destroyer would be as good as heavy cruiser then it should be on raid. Otherwise it's plain overpriced...

Of course it does not help that EA have a bizare naming convention - destroyers being at the top end of the scale...........

 

[katadder]

well the ISA have a victory destroyer right at the top end

 

[Da Boss]

well the ISA have a victory destroyer right at the top end

yeah your right - I should have said the show has..........

 

[Lord David the Denied]

It's named that because it's following the EA convention. That's Sheridan's influence for you.

Mind you, the Narn stupidly refer to a high-level warship as a destroyer, too...

 

[Spike1382]

I was generally under the impression that the Vorlon fighters were similar to a remote control vessel.

Can't remember where I read it, but the fighters are piloted by servents of the Vorlons. I think this might have been an AOG notation.

Thinking about this, counldn't the fighters be used on their own? I'm sure if anyone can put a jump drive on a fighter it would be the Vorlons...

 

[Sulfurdown]

You know, I'm thinking back to the Shadow storm in "Shadow Dancing" when all the ships seemed to fall out of hyperspace (like black snow). I can't recall if I saw any fighters coming out of hyperspace along with the big ships or if they were ejected later.

 

[Valen is my name]

Can the 1960s fighter go faster than present fighters, out dogfight them and be more resiliant as well? No, well most ACTA fighters are better than Vorlon / Shadows in all of the above.................and they usually get more of them...............(I am in the main, a Centauri player)

well a while back a spitfire was pitted against a lightning in a dogfight, and if it had been real, the spit would likely have won because it had a tighter turning circle, look the point i'm trying to make is slowness doesn't make something worse

i don't really understand your point. as bombers go, a vulcan could do more damage than a tornado despite being older. it was slower but could travel further.

newer things aren't always better. they can be, and we like them to be, but don't forget roles change to. a starfury may be a better dogfighter than the vorlons fighter, but does not pack nearly as much punch, its the vulcan and tornado all over again. the vorlons and EA want different things from their fighters, so its pointless trying to compare them on speed and dogfighting capabilities, but if you are going to, don't make the mistake of thinking newer things are always going to be better

 

[Da Boss]

Hmm maybe - but shouldn't we be comparing byplanes (or Ballons!? :lol: ) with Stealth fighters or something to get more of an idea of the tech difference.........

I see your point about specialisation but shouldn't they then be amongst the best at what they do?

 

[Valen is my name]

well they are good at what they do, but they aren't completly specialised.

but i suppose it ultimatly comes down to the fact that the ancients were not that bothered about dog-fighter fighters, which is why they aren't that good. more interested in warships than fighters, same goes for some of the LONAW fighters, they aren't very good but the governments weren't that bothered about fighters.

NB

has anyone else noticed that the poll doesn't add up. 79% + 20% doesn't equal 100!

 

[Lord David the Denied]

i don't really understand your point. as bombers go, a vulcan could do more damage than a tornado despite being older. it was slower but could travel further.

That might be because the Vulcan is a dedicated strategic bomber and the Tornado is a multi-role aircraft that's not great at any one task. Or it could be that the Vulcan isn't a "better" bomber than the Tornado, since it isn't much use for precision strikes with laser-guided ordnance...

 

[Sulfurdown]

5 out of 24 is 20.8333...%
19 out of 24 is 79.1666...%

System must be rounding down.

 

[Valen is my name]

once again it comes down to the weapon (be it starfury, vulcan or tornado) being designed for what the powers that be think they want or will want in the future, and so them being created with different roles in mind. thats what i was trying to say but didn't put it very well

 

[Lord David the Denied]

Indeed. I know of nothing besides the ACtA stats that says Vorlon and Shadow fighters are primarily heavy attack craft meant to destroy capital ships. I recall one shot of Vorlon fighters swarming around a Shadow ship, shooting it from all sides, but not doing any apparent damage...

 

[tneva82]

Indeed. I know of nothing besides the ACtA stats that says Vorlon and Shadow fighters are primarily heavy attack craft meant to destroy capital ships. I recall one shot of Vorlon fighters swarming around a Shadow ship, shooting it from all sides, but not doing any apparent damage...

Not telling much since quite a LOT of firepower was directed at shadow ships without any apparent damage...

 

[Lord David the Denied]

This is true. I don't recall seeing Vorlon fighters actually attack anything else...

 

[tneva82]

This is true. I don't recall seeing Vorlon fighters actually attack anything else...

Well we don't see Vorlons doing all that much space combat either...

Main point of show was never space combats anyway. Actually they were more of a side show. So fixing on it is meaningless.

 

[Lord David the Denied]

Rather makes this whole game meaningless then, doesn't it?