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Trolls! I mean anything that is decended from a pig cannot be honourable or brave...
[Stands and takes the backlash like no troll ever would.]
[Stands and takes the backlash like no troll ever would.]
Dead Blue Clown said:soltakss said:Hmm. I've always considered ZZ, the deity, as a big bully. He swaggers around, beating people up and doing bad things (killing Flamal, eating all the vegetation, messing Yelmalio up) but when things go badly, he generally runs away crying. So, yes, as a god he is a bit of a wimp, and deservedly so.
Zorak Zorani, on the other hand, are big, bad and hang around in berserking gangs. Their idea of tactics is a full-on charge, which I fully approve of by the way. They are sometimes sneaky and underhand, but I wouldn't give them a lot of sneaky tactics.
This is pretty much the way I see it, too.
Voriof said:Sure. This works for me as it is the way I've always felt the Zorak Zorani operated. But they are not, as seemed to be implied, wimps. I don't really feel that Zorak Zoran himself is a coward/wimp. But again, this is merely my opinion.
Voriof
Dead Blue Clown said:Voriof said:Sure. This works for me as it is the way I've always felt the Zorak Zorani operated. But they are not, as seemed to be implied, wimps. I don't really feel that Zorak Zoran himself is a coward/wimp. But again, this is merely my opinion.
Voriof
You got that, from this?
War isn't always about noble battles and great duels at the heads of armies. It's also about snipers, ambushes, slaughtering helpless innocents and relatives to strike fear into the hearts of the enemy and crush morale, striking while enemy troops are unprepared, and so on. I'm playing these aspects of Zorak Zoran (and his followers) up a great deal.
So while ol' Zeez might not be able to go toe to toe with God-Emperor Yelm in a fistfight, you can bet your best socks that his followers are the cunningest, ambushiest, violentest, ruthlessest, fear-strikingest, get-the-job-done badasses out there.
Or from someone else?
Dead Blue Clown said:This is something I'm very keen on addressing, especially since ZeeZee is coming up in what I'm writing right now. Essentially, as presented in previous times, he can seem a bit of a...well, a wimp. And for a God of War, that's not particularly the angle I'm hoping to convey. (At least not from the troll POV - the God Learners can think whatever they like; they'll never agree with each other on it anyway.)
Voriof said:Dead Blue Clown said:Voriof said:Sure. This works for me as it is the way I've always felt the Zorak Zorani operated. But they are not, as seemed to be implied, wimps. I don't really feel that Zorak Zoran himself is a coward/wimp. But again, this is merely my opinion.
Voriof
You got that, from this?
War isn't always about noble battles and great duels at the heads of armies. It's also about snipers, ambushes, slaughtering helpless innocents and relatives to strike fear into the hearts of the enemy and crush morale, striking while enemy troops are unprepared, and so on. I'm playing these aspects of Zorak Zoran (and his followers) up a great deal.
So while ol' Zeez might not be able to go toe to toe with God-Emperor Yelm in a fistfight, you can bet your best socks that his followers are the cunningest, ambushiest, violentest, ruthlessest, fear-strikingest, get-the-job-done badasses out there.
Or from someone else?
I didn't see that part. I saw this part:
Dead Blue Clown said:This is something I'm very keen on addressing, especially since ZeeZee is coming up in what I'm writing right now. Essentially, as presented in previous times, he can seem a bit of a...well, a wimp. And for a God of War, that's not particularly the angle I'm hoping to convey. (At least not from the troll POV - the God Learners can think whatever they like; they'll never agree with each other on it anyway.)
Which is why I thought "bwah?"
Had I seen the first quote (which until now, I have not) I'd have said, "Spot On, Dude!"
"Spot on, Dude."
Better?
Voriof
Dead Blue Clown said:I was freaking out, there. I was thinking "Argh! What did I say? Where is it??" and scrolling all over the place looking for the moment I'd clearly lost my mind.
Dead Blue Clown said:Incidentally, I've got both Cults books open in other windows right now. I ever tell you that I hate you for converting and creating all the coolest spells imaginable?
I haven't said that yet?
Ah, allow me to do it now. : )
.Zorak Zorani ARE ALLWimps!
I have bested many in personal combat.
It is their damn trollkin I have to watch out for.