Casper Van Dien as Johnny Rico back on the screen?

[Makoto]

Captain Smirk, You've forgotten the greatest detail of all: during the Klendathu sequence all those mobs move completely aimlessly. There's no objectives given, merely mobs running here and there untill a single bug causes the entire mob to rout (anybody bothered with counting Warriors in this sequence? Never managed to count more than 15 total in contact with LAMIs, including that underground one. Have no idea what happened to that swarm that was visible for few seconds)

 

[captainsmirk]

Hey I said I liked the film, mostly because I can laugh at the stupidity admittedly...




Nick

 

[tneva82]

(ignoring for the moment the fact that they apparently did so preemptively millions of years before the event that caused them to do so, so as to give it time to reach its target).

Am I just dreaming but I could have swore I read somewhere that the asteroid was actually from the asteroid belt behind mars? Something about transport bug tms. launching it toward Earth.

Cuts down on transport time yes?-)

 

[captainsmirk]

According to the films description of Klendathu, its system is a binary star system

whose brutal gravitational forces produce an unlimited supply of bug meteorites.

Which suggests that they fired them from there. Plus there is no evidence for Transport bugs in the film, they first appeared in the CGI which has a different plot.


Nick

 

[tneva82]

According to the films description of Klendathu, its system is a binary star system

Note this comes from propaganda of folks believing bugs to be stupid :lol:

There mere IDEA of transport bug capable of flying in space propably hadn't crossed their mind.

I wouldn't call that propaganda film as most reliable source of information :lol:

 

[captainsmirk]

Well that is indeed true... :lol:

But one would imagine that they would actually encounter transport bugs flying around, its not like the Brain Bugs which were always out of sight underground...

Plus the Roger Young was beyond Jupiter when it met the asteroid, which is beyond the asteroid belt. Although I might be wrong about that, that was just where they went when Carmen first joined them, they could have moved back deeper into the solar system I suppose...


Nick

 

[tneva82]

But one would imagine that they would actually encounter transport bugs flying around, its not like the Brain Bugs which were always out of sight underground...

Depends on a) how many transport bugs there are b) how much they go flying around c) how comprehensive sensor network humans have. Space is BIG place (probably not that good sensor net concidering asteroid managed to hit earth without humans being able to stop it. If asteroid heading earth can slip past why not transport bug?)

Then again. Maybe it's just "screw the science, it's just hollywood movie" thingie :lol:

But realisticly speaking asteroid would pretty much have to come from our solar system. As you said it would take a lot of time to reach from Klendathu...Bugs wouldn't even know to bomb this planet when it would have had to be launched.

Which is why I find the transport bug theory more believable.

Any guesses btw how long it would take for asteroid to reach earth from asteroid belt?

 

[captainsmirk]

At the speed it was going?

A very long time... (Despite the Astronomically small distance that would involve. It can't have been going much faster than 10mph...)

But I'm betting on the Hollywood "Science Be Damned" theory...


Nick

 

[tneva82]

At the speed it was going?

More of roughly how fast asteroids in general move. Movie/TV screen aren't best things to judge scale/speed anyway :lol: They are there to look good, not be scientifically accurate(just check B5. Though in general they tried to stick accurate to physics where possible the ships appear to be ridiculously close during the battles...).

 

[lastbesthope]

Plus the Roger Young was beyond Jupiter when it met the asteroid, which is beyond the asteroid belt. Although I might be wrong about that, that was just where they went when Carmen first joined them, they could have moved back deeper into the solar system I suppose...


Nick

I think it wa sin orbit of Jupiter, which is indeed beyond the asteroid belt. however, that does not preclude the asteroid belt being the origin of the asteroid, transfer orbits are many and varied.

There are also the asteroid clumps at the L4 and L5 points of the Jupiter-Sun system

LBH

 

[Ragnarok]

Talking about asteroids...I've been ruminating over something I'd like to submit to y'all:

Back in '58, Robert Heinlein had no idea of the damage done by a HUGE asteroid the bug slung into B.A. (from whereever!). I figure he figured it would be like a large Hiroshima or worse, with those new-fangled hydrogen bombs. By the time of the film, though, I think some maverick scientists were already talking about large meteor impacts wiping out the dinosaurs (and various other flora and fauna that had managed to survive to that point).

History Channel televised a fascinating show on dinosaur extinction (part of their Mega Disaster series?), with possible impact points around the Yucatan Peninsula and/or the Chesapeake Bay (as I'm looking out my window to ensure the Bay's still there!). They've found Iridium in core samples around the Bay, and theorize that the dust kicked up by the impact blotted out the sun long enough for vegetation to generally die out. They pointed out the weather effects of the large volcanic eruption in Indonesia in the early 19th century, which lead to snow in New York in June and the River Thames freezing solid. :!:

I guess that, if SST were to be re-written by "modern" scientific standards, the B.A. asteroid all but wiped out planet Earth and we're be fighting back from our new home in Sanctuary! :shock:

 

[lastbesthope]

The amount of damage the asteroid did would depend on size, impact speed, material of the asteroid and just exactly where and what it hit.

You could have anything from the killing of one person all the way up to an ELE (Extinction Level Event) and beyond

LBH

 

[captainsmirk]

Heinlein never mentions an asteroid, he just says that the Bugs "smeared" Buenos Aires. As the Bugs in the book use conventional spaceships this was probably done using nukes fired from ships.


Nick

 

[hamlrt]

Hello everyone
Lets hope i am not around when......
A/ big asteroid hits earth
B/when ben affleck saves earth from big asteroid
c/When we get interstellar travel sorted and we piss off some incredibly
powerful and vengefull alien race .

Would like to see/meet alien grey though , but not get abducted and "ahem" be examined. :lol:
J