thanks for the offers chaps ( and chappette!) hmm, is a female chap a chappette? never thought about that one. anyhow, a few more replies than intended, I'll do a cutoff now!, anyone before this can get a copy. I've just been advised i'm playing a tourney tomorow, so may delay my work a tad, but I'll get it out to you. I have a few e-mails for you, the rest i will pm for either a mail addy, or i'll send a link for you to download it