B5 Lost tales - a little dissapointing

[lastbesthope]

The problem is if you don't sink in enough money to make it a success in the first place then there won't be any chance of a sequel.

So long as it makes money, there is a chance of a sequel.

LBH

 

[Arch Lector Petrovski]

True, but if enough money isn't put into it to make it a quality product then it won't generate enough money to warrent a sequel.

They did make the right choice about going to DVD straight off the bat though. Each DVD costs mere pence to produce and put on the shelves and retails for between £10 and £15, so a profit of several hundred times the investment; not including all the other expenses such as wages and tax of course.

 

[tneva82]

although all of the cooridors seemed so empty and void of life

Well the station was sorta victim of it's own success by creation of ISA which moved most of B5's functions elsewhere eventually rendering it useless relic in need of destruction.

So call it showing how activity in B5 decreased over time :lol:. Though from the sound of it probably bit TOO exaggerated(it still has some 10 years before destruction) but hey...Atleast some sort of explanation other than no money in budget ;-)

 

[BuShips]

Another creative explanation could be that there is another Brakiri Day of the Dead and everyone has gone back to their rooms. :lol: Lockley has "been there, done that".

No, scratch that as there isn't another DotD for what, 200 years? Hmm, but is that Earth years or Brakiri years? If the Brakiri home world close-orbits a red dwarf then the years would pass rather quickly. :wink: Besides, if the Brakiri are night dwelling, it could mean that they live on the dark side of a tidally-locked planet. It kind of makes sense. Having a low budget is so boring to think about as the answer, heh. :lol:

 

[Da Boss]

According to wikipedia the two EA ships are Warlocks. As for the Lost Tales haven't seen it and not likely to after having read the blurb and your comments, not all that comfortable with the concept of a demonically possessed character. Nothing like that ever came up in the origional stuff and I don't see how it is necessary to add it now. Although I still doubt anything could ever be as bad as Legend of the Rangers (remember their 'new firing system', I thought I was having a nightmare in zero-gravity).

Agreed the second one was very B5

- the first one was wierd and very un B5.

- Would have much prefered a extended version of the second.

 

[Arch Lector Petrovski]

Unfortunately I think it was trying to play on the current increase in the popularity of superstition and the supernatural, completely unnecessary as B5 should simply remain the shinning example of true sci-fi that it was rather than try and change to encompase what is 'currently in vouge'; very disappointing.

 

[Johnny D]

First one wasn't up to much, but the dialogue alone made the second one well worth a watch.
Like so many others I cannot believe anyone could compare it to legend of the rangers. If you like B5 Lost Tales is worth a view especially the second episode (which makes it pretty much the opposite of Legend of the Rangers).
Never been a fan of Lockley and kinda surprised they keep using her, still grudging props for their loyalty I guess. Galen was great as ever and I think I prefered Sheriden in this more than in the main show.
All in all glad I own it.

 

[MustEatBrains]

as B5 should simply remain the shinning example of true sci-fi that it was

I have to contradict here a little - B5 had always has its fair share of mysticism - the whole Great Darkness/shining light thing that was the Shadow War was very "creation mythy", and Technomages were supposed to add to that mysticism as well. So, B5 has been accurate, but never pure, Sci-Fi - there were more than enough fantasy elements.

Demonic posession? We have telepathy, beings of pure energy, prophecies and so on, Sheridan had once been "posessed" by a creature from a time rift... so the idea is neither entirely new to the B5 universe, nor is it out of place. It may be a little too religious/unscientific for some, but that´s more about personal tastes than about not fitting into the B5 world

 

[tneva82]

Sheridan had once been "posessed" by a creature from a time rift...

Not to mention he had Kosh inside him for a while. Maybe not exact match but similar thing.

 

[Da Boss]

which is fine if it had gone along the route of First Ones etc but it was all cloaked in quasi religious nonsense.....IMHO been interesting if they had asked a telepath what was going on?

 

[Karhedron]

Warlocks do in fact have honking big missile racks

If you watch the final battle sequence in "A Call to Arms" (the TV Movie) you get to see a Warlock firing its missiles as a White Star zooms past. You can't see the whole ship in the shot but it is definitely a Warlock, you see it overtaking the Excalibur later on as the Shadow PK collapses.

 

[Right Hand of God]

What is the episode and season where Sheridan is possed by an entity from a time rift? I don't recall that one at all.

The are a lot of quasi religous bits to the B5 stories especially with the Narn. The Minbari stories aren't exactly prophecy as Valen/Sinclair is mereling telling them in the past what the future holds. That's a question of time/paradox rather than mysticsm and religion.

The whole Darkness and Light thing I don't think carries any religous over tones, good and evil, yin and yang an equal and opposite force, the fact that they are termed as Darkness and Light doesn't bear any more significance than 1940s westerns having good guys in white hats and bad guys in black hats.

I thought the vision of the vorlons as beings from every species religions showed how the Vorlons had used religion to manipulate species along the paths they wanted rather than it being an element of quasi religiousness within the B5 story arc per se.

I am not sure how the inclusion of telepathy moves it from being sci fi to sci-fantasy, in my opinion in doesn't, especially taking into account the fact that the telepaths were genetic mutations engineered by alien interferance in the gene pool

 

[lastbesthope]

What is the episode and season where Sheridan is possed by an entity from a time rift? I don't recall that one at all.

Season 2's "Knives"

LBH

 

[Right Hand of God]

Thanks, I shall have to give that a looksee next week. Any good? Can't be as bad as Grey 17 is missing

 

[BuShips]

JMS has woven religion throughout the B5 arc, so the new "episode" does fit for me into B5 and I'm not what you'd call religious. BTW, neither is JMS iirc, but he has done more with the topic than other sci-fi franchises ever did.

Did anyone notice that the "possessed" prisoner used a "pet" JMS phrase that Delenn and Dukhat have also used?

I'm enjoying watching the "movie" more on the second run-through than the first. Yes, the rust (and low budget) shows but it's a start. It's a bit for me like when I watch the entire series over. It starts a bit slow, but picks up the tempo with a bit of patience added. JMS has also said that he is delegating to other directors in the followup releases and with the ones he's used in the past it should also help.

Oh, a point of trivia, perhaps. When watching the Lost Tales (Over Here) the person 'Asmodeus' inhabits is referred to by Col. Lockley as working in security. Later, when she wakes up and asks the computer for his status it answers "maintenance" as his position. Did I catch a continuity issue here or am I just my normally confused self? :wink:

 

[lastbesthope]

ISn't she asking the status of the prisoner, maintenance, i.e. probably allowing mijnimal, if any, human contact (like Sheridan ordered on Morden when he caught him) but making sure he gets fed and watered????

I may be wrong, I've only watched it once so far.

LBH

 

[Stonehorse]

Did anyone else notice that the ship the 'Possessed' came to Babylon 5 in also hand the same name as the ship that brought 'King Arthur' to Babylon 5 in Series 3 Episode 13: A Late Delivery From Avalon.

There is more than likely no conection between the two, just something I noticced as I'm re watching Babylon 5.

 

[greenboy]

I always thought JMS take on religion in the series is more about personal faith than questioning the existance of god/gods such as in the episode Passing Through Gethsemane in season 3 and the so called demon in lost tale is no more powerful than a vorlon so could just be a ancient that did not leave for the rim just as some of teh first ones stayed behind before.

 

[lastbesthope]

Did anyone else notice that the ship the 'Possessed' came to Babylon 5 in also hand the same name as the ship that brought 'King Arthur' to Babylon 5 in Series 3 Episode 13: A Late Delivery From Avalon.

There is more than likely no conection between the two, just something I noticced as I'm re watching Babylon 5.

It was probably the same ship, I mean it's only been 10 years and change, it's likely still be in service.

LBH

 

[BuShips]

ISn't she asking the status of the prisoner, maintenance, i.e. probably allowing mijnimal, if any, human contact (like Sheridan ordered on Morden when he caught him) but making sure he gets fed and watered????

I may be wrong, I've only watched it once so far.

LBH

Yeah, that's the other explanation and why I might be confused about what I heard. :lol: