Asteroids and ancients -moved from OT

Please re-read my post.

Marc controls the OTU Setting. Marc also has considerable say (if not control) over the RULES. He does not control any other setting.

Sorry if there was confusion with my previous post.
 
EDG said:
Personally I would just prefer that you just stopped trolling. I don't have a problem with disagreeing with people, but when they decide it's OK to be flippant, baiting, dismissive, sarcastic, facetious, personal and all of those other pointless, stupid things that don't add to constructive conversation (and that you do with me), that's when I get pissed off. It's really simple - talk about the topic, not the person writing it. Just stop and think about what you write before you post it, and ask if there's anything in there directed at the poster themselves - if there is, then you need to edit that crap out. If you're not capable of doing that with me though, then by all means, leave the board and then maybe we can all get some peace here. The fact that you've constistently done this to me for over a year though doesn't fill me with hope that you'll change.

I'm not trolling, and you know it, so stop being as overdramatic as when you accused me of stalking you in this one newsgroup, in a thread I started. Perhaps I'm baiting you, at worst, but basically, I can't stand you and vice versa other, and its showing. . but if you want to put all of it on me, fine. A brief vacation will allow me to decide if I'm just not getting how the posting community here works, and your approach is in all ways reasonable and cool.

This isn't going to end until one of us takes a break, and it's clear who it needs to be.



Either way, I'm really sick of this crap. I do not want to be arguing with you or anyone every time I post here. But at the same time I should not have to put up with people targeting me with baiting - and that's as much an issue with the moderation (or rather the lack of it) here.

Then stick to one of your resolutions to quit, ignore people who bait you, or stop posting. Or don't. You made it plain that you have no interest in trying to reach any kind of resolution except on your terms. Possibly that's the right path to take if you really believe that I am just another one of a long line of monsters attacking you and who you need to protect the forum from. Possibly you're in place where you cant back down an inch without losing....I dunno, face ? Self respect ? Whatever. Possibly I've pushed you there, and for that, I'm sorry.

Still, I offered, you accepted, so there it is. Deal with the other problems on your own. Who knows, maybe with me gone, all the other harassment will stop. In which case, then I deserve to have to leave.

Fact is, I'm not worried about your constant admin complaints (yes, it is as you suggested. Exactly one request in the past year came back to me to treat you with kid gloves. Becuase they were too busy to deal with the complaints ) or that you make any of your personal changes to the traveller rules, background or system that will have any effect on my gaming experience or that the community will rally to your viewpoint. The only conclusion they seem to have reached, and rightly so, is that we are both acting like fools....the massive view upshoot when we start going at it divided by the actual posts suggest that we are basically the equivilent of fighting clowns in a ring. And, that I'd rather not continue, regardless of who's fault you have to make it.
But obviously ignoring you will not work since you feel you have the need to constantly continue our screwed up relationship.

So, I'm not going to quit the group forever, nor gaming , nor screech out in a miasma of denouncements and flouncing, nor quit traveller, or delete all my threads, or whatever standard drama queen tactics are . I am taking a vacation from posting as EDG so honestly believes that he has nothing to do with the problem, or responsibility for stopping it; and there isn't room here for two people with that idea. I can chat with most of y'all on other groups, and I'll check in in a bit.

EDG, feel free to ignore me when I do.

Till then, to all else , see you in a while. And sorry for getting so publicly stuck to a tarbaby...and on your dime, too.
 
captainjack23 said:
Till then, to all else , see you in a while.
I am sorry to see you go, even when it is only for a while. :(

Have a good time, and come back as soon as you consider it prudent. :D
 
EDG said:
kristof65 said:
Can I make a request as a relative newcomer here? Can captainjack and EDG stop answering each other's posts?
I'd love to. However, he keeps saying things that are incorrect. What am I supposed to do, let that stand and have people confused by contradictory answers?
Then stick to the facts when refuting his and provide references where necessary - especially if it's something from Traveller source material. Although given how much that inflames both of you, I'd avoid that particular can of worms altogether and stick with science facts.

Especially when they're about a subject that is my field of expertise.
And your experitse is appreciated - but not when it's encased in a clash of egos.

Granted, it's not helpful that he insists on arguing with everything I say
You are both guilty of this. In pretty much equal amounts, although in any given thread, one of you may be more "guilty" than the other. Both of you have provided quite helpful information and opinions (and in the same threads, even), but it seems that any time you guys have a disagreement, it erupts into a clash of wills and egos.

I appreciate the info and insights both you and captainjack have provided here. Even when you disagree and/or provide contradictory information, it's not such a bad thing - it "forces" me to go look for my own answers. I don't want to see either of you go, I just want you both to agree to stop arguing. If this forum offered it (it might, but I can't find it) a way for the two of you to set to ignore each others posts, I'd suggest that you both utilize that option.

It's either that, or get someone neutral to edit your responses to each other to remove the vitroil.
 
kristof65 said:
EDG said:
Riiiiight. Yeah... I rest my case.
See, that's my point. That was not necessary...

I made it quite clear what pissed me off about his posts, and he even pointed out that he deliberately singled me out with his flippant, antagonistic responses. All I got back was a load of shrieking and an admission from him about how "he can't stand me" (he thinks I can't stand him, but really I can tolerate him just fine. It's just his chosen manner of response that I can't stand).

So yeah. I do rest my case, because he demonstrated several of the the problems that I have with him in that reply.


And also, if you must sit there and be judgmental (instead of just ignoring it), at least judge us both to the same standards. I didn't see you complaining about unnecessary comments on the other thread when he said "goodnight leeroy jenkins!" as a parting shot (which he's now deleted). Neither did I see you making a similar complaint when he put "Newly Anointed Doktor of Facetiousness and Lord of Droll" in his sig, which was also clearly unnecessary.


Either way, can we stop this now? I am really tired of all this fighting, and if he really has "taken a break" then things should get a hell of a lot quieter now.
 
Since the ancients war was won by Grandfather, who was, and is, so technologically advanced that he's sitting in a pocket dimension he created so he won't be bothered, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHY DESTROYED PLANETS ARE NOW AN ASTEROID BELT!

Look at it this way, Grandfather did it, either for some form of ancient art, or maybe he was just tidying up...

(He can move planets, create pocket universes, etc, somehow doing a Feng Shui on some ex-planet chunks doesn't rate as difficult for him.)
 
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