Arachnid Queen - How Big?
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Gauntlet-
Banded Mongoose
OKay, well mine is more of a set terrain piece for a special underground game...
Plastic dinner plate base, with plaster/sand all over, and several tunnel exits all around. Upside down plasma rear... so the well anus, is pointed down
Then the plasma torso, coming out of that will be the tanker torso, and then tanker head... this should form a C formation....
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Something like that standing.... then im gonna use plasma legs all around to hold it up, put on some elongated tanker legs too... and warrior legs coming from the tanker torso all curled up.....the beetle flaps of the plasma will be attached (though only two on the underside...
coming from those flaps and the holes will be numerous Chariot bugs... crawling all over the queens body, the oviposter, will be birthing egg pieces, probablly fake plastic grapes, with gel poured over here and there... shell be giving birth unto the backs of chariots who will be in a assembly line and they carry the eggs down into the tunnels beneath her body, where the eggs are stored for birthing....
I may just build this and use it as a Bug Central Model lol
Plastic dinner plate base, with plaster/sand all over, and several tunnel exits all around. Upside down plasma rear... so the well anus, is pointed down
Then the plasma torso, coming out of that will be the tanker torso, and then tanker head... this should form a C formation....
11111 00
1111000
111000
111100 0
111000000
1110000000
111100000
111111100
ignore the ones...
Something like that standing.... then im gonna use plasma legs all around to hold it up, put on some elongated tanker legs too... and warrior legs coming from the tanker torso all curled up.....the beetle flaps of the plasma will be attached (though only two on the underside...
coming from those flaps and the holes will be numerous Chariot bugs... crawling all over the queens body, the oviposter, will be birthing egg pieces, probablly fake plastic grapes, with gel poured over here and there... shell be giving birth unto the backs of chariots who will be in a assembly line and they carry the eggs down into the tunnels beneath her body, where the eggs are stored for birthing....
I may just build this and use it as a Bug Central Model lol
Nice, but with one popular mistake.
Queens do not lay eggs - Breeders do that.
That's why I like to call them Emperor or Regina Bugs.
And I still ask myself whether Bugs:
-have two sexes with the males only beeing drones - like ants or bees.
-two (or maybe even more) with (invisible) different sexes across all species and castes - like Termites.
-or almost just one sex at all, with males just getting bred from time to time and disappearing again very quickly - like Sheet louses.
Queens do not lay eggs - Breeders do that.
That's why I like to call them Emperor or Regina Bugs.
And I still ask myself whether Bugs:
-have two sexes with the males only beeing drones - like ants or bees.
-two (or maybe even more) with (invisible) different sexes across all species and castes - like Termites.
-or almost just one sex at all, with males just getting bred from time to time and disappearing again very quickly - like Sheet louses.
Gauntlet-
Banded Mongoose
Breeder Bugs from what?
Are you referring to the CGI Nurser bugs? because they inject the apropriate DNA to determine bug class...
the CGI specifically cites that the queen is capable of laying 180,000 eggs a day. So Im a little at odds with your opinion that she doesnt lay eggs... I dont think mongoose ever said she didnt...
so youve got me baffled to explain where you got such an idea
Are you referring to the CGI Nurser bugs? because they inject the apropriate DNA to determine bug class...
the CGI specifically cites that the queen is capable of laying 180,000 eggs a day. So Im a little at odds with your opinion that she doesnt lay eggs... I dont think mongoose ever said she didnt...
so youve got me baffled to explain where you got such an idea
Gauntlet-
Banded Mongoose
Because 1. its the most original species they have, it is the originator the original arachnid... its not sper specified because thats what the other sub species are for... the Queen rules because she is the originator of the species...
If she were just super command why would there be Brain Bugs, why would she be a she..? wouldnt she just be a Big Big Brain Bug that doesnt go into battle>?
No I think the Queens are Queens, they breed and command, and they only fight when they have to, The breeder bugs exist to supplement Queen egg production... Besides she might as well have babies since she is stuck at the very deepest levels of bug colonies, shes got nothing better to do.
The Novel reffered to queens as being massive factory bugs... just laying eggs constantly, and the CGI show confirmed the Queen as a egg laying monster... why would Mongoose diverge from that? It would go against everything the word Queen stands for in the Bug sense.
If she were just super command why would there be Brain Bugs, why would she be a she..? wouldnt she just be a Big Big Brain Bug that doesnt go into battle>?
No I think the Queens are Queens, they breed and command, and they only fight when they have to, The breeder bugs exist to supplement Queen egg production... Besides she might as well have babies since she is stuck at the very deepest levels of bug colonies, shes got nothing better to do.
The Novel reffered to queens as being massive factory bugs... just laying eggs constantly, and the CGI show confirmed the Queen as a egg laying monster... why would Mongoose diverge from that? It would go against everything the word Queen stands for in the Bug sense.
It could go either way I suppose. A new bug colony certainly wouldn't have a queen, but would need a source of eggs - breeders. The book said that the brain bugs ruled eveything, the queen just laid eggs. The CGI didn't really go along with this.
Oh, and Gauntlet-, your queen looks an aweful lot like the slurm queen from futurama.
Oh, and Gauntlet-, your queen looks an aweful lot like the slurm queen from futurama.
Well, I asume the breeders being the most primitive Arachnid species.
Nursers are just needed because there are different species, so breeders could reproduce themselves without a problem. They are even able to defend themselves though they prefer to run, because they know of their value.
It may be possible that queens lay eggs, but I still don't see why they should. Well, probably because they don't have anything to do and do it while ruling the planet.
But then brains should lay eggs, too. At least ocassionally when not engaged in battle.
Nursers are just needed because there are different species, so breeders could reproduce themselves without a problem. They are even able to defend themselves though they prefer to run, because they know of their value.
It may be possible that queens lay eggs, but I still don't see why they should. Well, probably because they don't have anything to do and do it while ruling the planet.
But then brains should lay eggs, too. At least ocassionally when not engaged in battle.
Wow guys - this is a great conversation. The way I look at it... the Queen is the female and provides the egg much like a hen does. If it goes unferilized it's food for you and me but fertilization makes it into another chicken so... maybe the Breeder is the "male" that gives the egg specific coding for it's specific task (becoming a Warrior, Tanker, Mantis, etc). The Breeder is the rooster. And then after the egg is fertilized it is "sent" to the nursery with the Nurser Bugs until it's ready to fight for the Empire.
I think of it that way:
Breeders:
Lay eggs. Probably they once did more, but now they do not have to do all the hard manual tasks anymore.
-Nursers:
Care for the eggs and do genetic experiments with them (so they have two functions). Makes sense because it's easier to have a bug that is a dedicated evolution booster than reduce the breeders breeding capacity for this.
And also it is already the nursers job to care for the eggs and have a look at how they evolve, so it fits.
-Queens:
Well, as said they rule worlds.
It would make sense for a queen to lay eggs, as long as it doesn't reduce her capacity to rule their colony.
So a queen only makes sense in a big bug colony. There needs to be a logistic system to provide her with food, breed all her eggs and defend her.
As it is already most valuable (it's the bug emperor) so why not have it lay eggs? You already need to defend it at any cost, so making it a little more important doesn't make it any more problematic.
At least you can asure you have a REALLY great number of bugs around her.
-Drones
As said I prefer the Termite way for bugs (different but similar looking sexes across all casts). Question is - where are the drones?
If a queen ist really such a factory bug there are some different ways:
-Drones are only bred sometimes, have sex with the queen and then dissapear quickly (sheet louse model).
-Drones can be found all the time in arachnid hives, but only in the queen's chamber (Termite model).
-Drones are IN the queen bug. They bite it and then mold together for eternity, sharing even one blood circular system (sp?) (deep sea fish model).
-Drones just consist of a sperm delivery organ, some sensors and rudimentary legs. They do not have any big legs, claws, no mouth or a digestive system. When they hatch, they are taken by nursers, brought to the queen, have sex and die instantly (parasite trematod model), probably even during the act, like bee drones.
Breeders:
Lay eggs. Probably they once did more, but now they do not have to do all the hard manual tasks anymore.
-Nursers:
Care for the eggs and do genetic experiments with them (so they have two functions). Makes sense because it's easier to have a bug that is a dedicated evolution booster than reduce the breeders breeding capacity for this.
And also it is already the nursers job to care for the eggs and have a look at how they evolve, so it fits.
-Queens:
Well, as said they rule worlds.
It would make sense for a queen to lay eggs, as long as it doesn't reduce her capacity to rule their colony.
So a queen only makes sense in a big bug colony. There needs to be a logistic system to provide her with food, breed all her eggs and defend her.
As it is already most valuable (it's the bug emperor) so why not have it lay eggs? You already need to defend it at any cost, so making it a little more important doesn't make it any more problematic.
At least you can asure you have a REALLY great number of bugs around her.
-Drones
As said I prefer the Termite way for bugs (different but similar looking sexes across all casts). Question is - where are the drones?
If a queen ist really such a factory bug there are some different ways:
-Drones are only bred sometimes, have sex with the queen and then dissapear quickly (sheet louse model).
-Drones can be found all the time in arachnid hives, but only in the queen's chamber (Termite model).
-Drones are IN the queen bug. They bite it and then mold together for eternity, sharing even one blood circular system (sp?) (deep sea fish model).
-Drones just consist of a sperm delivery organ, some sensors and rudimentary legs. They do not have any big legs, claws, no mouth or a digestive system. When they hatch, they are taken by nursers, brought to the queen, have sex and die instantly (parasite trematod model), probably even during the act, like bee drones.
