An Open Letter To MGP

[Rob_A]

The whole 'joke' thing you have no concept of.

Canadians were very important in WW2, they fought long and hard.
America was late :evil: , but they were important in the war against Japan, though it was just to scare the Japs rather than get that much actual combat done like what was fought in Europe.

Dont joke about how others fought in the war, each country that fought was important for one reason or another.

 

[xeoran]

Dont joke about how others fought in the war, each country that fought was important for one reason or another.

Brazil? :wink:

Joking, joking!

 

[ScipioAmericanus]

Yeah...I agree, and let's stop the country-bashing before it gets out of hand.

Canada did indeed fight long and hard (they were one of the three major countries that invaded in Overlord, for example) and they had been fighting since Britain entered the war in 1939.

Nevertheless, the comment about the US in the Pacific was a little over-the-top, too: the land fighting in the Far East, and the Island-hopping campaign in particular, was some of the bloodiest and most brutally savage of the war.

If you're gonna bash somebody's army, bash Monaco's: they don't even have one...

Regards.

 

[Poko]

Britain entered the war in 1939.

well, i guess you could call it that way, if you were a hardcore legalist. they did declare war, after all.
it's that i can't really recall any British divisions that were sent to fulfill the alliance pact that year :wink:

 

[BuShips]

Yeah...I agree, and let's stop the country-bashing before it gets out of hand.

Canada did indeed fight long and hard (they were one of the three major countries that invaded in Overlord, for example) and they had been fighting since Britain entered the war in 1939.

Nevertheless, the comment about the US in the Pacific was a little over-the-top, too: the land fighting in the Far East, and the Island-hopping campaign in particular, was some of the bloodiest and most brutally savage of the war.

If you're gonna bash somebody's army, bash Monaco's: they don't even have one...

Regards.

Yup, Rob didn't help things very much with what he mentioned regarding the U.S. "contribution" while at the same time stating "each country that fought was important" :roll:. I suspect someone that was closer to Europe wouldn't place as much importance on the Pacific War as what happened in their own "backyard", but the Pacific War was a long list of very hard fought battles. Japan was a worthy opponent and a very powerful ally of Germany (or should I say "axis" of Germany, heh). The very dead last choice of countries that I would want to fight for was Russia, which suffered horrendous casualties.

 

[Mr Evil]

Britain entered the war in 1939.

well, i guess you could call it that way, if you were a hardcore legalist. they did declare war, after all.
it's that i can't really recall any British divisions that were sent to fulfill the alliance pact that year :wink:

britain france (and somewhere else i think) declared war in 1939 when poland was attacked by germany, if it wasnt for russia attacking polland may have had a chance but they got caught in a pincer movment between 2 non allied armies, a very od situation indeed.

then till france was invaded that period of the war onwards from october, was called the phoney war, basicly we were at war but no shot were being fired as all concerned where building up their troops and equiping and training them.


always amazes me of the things acheived in the second world war, the distances covered, the lives given and created, yet the gulf war is dragging.

 

[BuShips]

Mr Evil, the "missing" country you are trying to remember was Poland itself, because the three countries had a treaty (as I'm sure you know) that if one was attacked the others would declare war (and did). Hitler and Stalin divided up Poland under their signed non-agression pact of 23 August 1939 with Germany even handing over a heavy cruiser (the first Lutzow of the Hipper class & not the pocket battleship) to Russia. To "sweep this under the rug" with his own citizens, the Deutschland (pocket BB) was renamed Lutzow. Part of this was to switch the names so possibly the name would still be as a german warship and partly because after the loss of the Adm. Graf Spee he didn't want to ever lose a ship named after the Fatherland. Hitler was just playing for time as it turned out. My father just told me last week of hearing on the radio when he was a boy of the pact between Hitler and Stalin and said his family was terrified for the future of the world. Then of course later Russia joined the Allies. World history would have been rewritten of course if Japan, Russia and Germany (and alright Italy) had been able to hold off their differences until Britain was defeated. Whoa, that would have been hard for the US (yes, and Canada too!).

 

[Poko]

Mr.Evil-i'm quite aware of that, we usually do that part of national history around 5th grade of primary school :wink:
of course there was nothing odd about both countries attacking, especially the sovs, who still were a bit peeved ath the trashing they got in the 1920-21 war :wink:
of course it wounldn't be so if both countries(france and Brits) did what they were supposed to do, and attacked the west of the Reich...oh well, i guess i do undestand that they had a hard time doing it,given the state of both armies(iirc british one war rather...skeleta, and france was ready for defensive only)

 

[Mr Evil]

hey i got some bits right !! not bad for my nogin, proves i remember something from 20 years ago at school. ive impressed myself lol.

i didnt wish to assume polland was the 3rd country just incase i upset borat or somthing

have you noticed when there is a huge gap in wargame products these threads loose direction and go insane !!!

 

[BuShips]

hey i got some bits right !! not bad for my nogin, proves i remember something from 20 years ago at school. ive impressed myself lol.

i didnt wish to assume polland was the 3rd country just incase i upset borat or somthing

have you noticed when there is a huge gap in wargame products these threads loose direction and go insane !!!

Hmm, and I always thought that as these threads seemed less insane and got direction that another game was about to be released. Go figure! :lol:

 

[patton]

i agree with most of what you have said, only prepaints in starters, more fluff, and MUCH better quality.

 

[roughneck GIR]

What I meant is that several people have said/paid little attention to our army, making it seem non existant why canadian people (like me) stood by . Psst don't tell me stuff about ww2, I had to do a butt-load of it in history for 2 years. FYI hitler's nephew joined the american navy and then mailed him telling him that :lol: . I can't wait for some nice ultramodern minis, my wallet sure can though...

 

[Gauntlet-]

you all really shouldnt be so combative regarding history, as none of us can by any means prove whatever qualifications we may or may not have

2 years for Gir

I just finished a history major of 5 years

Buships is still getting his pay checks for D-Day

the point is 'lets not bicker and argue about who killed who'

 

[BuShips]

Buships is still getting his pay checks for D-Day

LOL. I say real men don't eat MREs, they eat K-rations! :lol: A real treat was when I was on Guadalcanal (not really!) I ate my captured Japanese rice with the maggots left in! Protein, Mmm!

 

[xeoran]

I ate my captured Japanese rice with the maggots left in! Protein, Mmm!

Actually my grandfather did that. Quite a bit. He also once survived on milk powder. Long story.
(Far East campaigns, not Pacific).

 

[BuShips]

I ate my captured Japanese rice with the maggots left in! Protein, Mmm!

Actually my grandfather did that. Quite a bit. He also once survived on milk powder. Long story.
(Far East campaigns, not Pacific).

This is something that stuck with me many years ago when first reading about the 1st Marine Division on Guadalcanal. The supply ships left before they were fully offloaded and the freshly grounded amphibious forces were left with only a few weeks worth of rations. Since they had taken the almost completed airstrip the Marines supplemented their rations with captured rice stockpiles. At first the rice infested with maggots was tossed. After the rations began to dwindle they then picked the maggots out of the rice and ate the rice. When it got bad enough, they left the maggots in as they needed the protein. It was much worse for the poor Japanese troops, as some ate each other eventually. War, as they say gentlemen, is hell.

 

[xeoran]

Well my grandfather did it during periods of the Burma campaign when either cut off or when supplies didn't get through. No idea if he ate maggots too.

War is indeed hell.

 

[roughneck GIR]

2 years for Gir

First off, I wasn't arguing with anyone, second off you people take me to literally, anything I say related to any form of joke is taken as an offense.

:lol: I just remembered my grand father on my dad's side served in the Swiss self-defense army (which never was needed), and my mother's side was german and came to canada just before ww2 started, and where watched by everyone :shock: . Oh god your grandpa lived off milk powder??!?

 

[xeoran]

Oh god your grandpa lived off milk powder??!?

It wasnt really his choice. But milkpowder sandwiches were rather popular I believe with Commonwealth forces.

 

[ScipioAmericanus]

You guys have reminded me of my ex-father-in-law. He was a Marine in WWII in the Pacific. One time (I think he was talking about Guadalcanal), he made a comment that I remembered in reading the latest posts: "At night, the Japs would try to sneak up on us, but when they got close enough you could smell 'em. They smelled exactly like an old wet dog."

Eating maggoty rice, powdered milk, or each other, being close enough to the enemy to smell him in the middle of the night...THAT kind of fighting is just beyond my capability to imagine. *shudders*