Ambush and Close Combat.

[cordas]

Using the Ambush rule available to the SAS

Ambush: This unit may be concealed in an area of terrain outside of the enemy’s deployment zone before the game begins. Write down the location of the unit before any models are deployed. You can reveal the unit at any time by placing the models on the table.

What happens if you reveal your SAS guys and put them in B2B with your opponents models? (assuming of course they have entered the terrain that the SAS where hiding in) Do they imediatly fight a CC or do they just ignore each other?

I can't find anything in the rules to say that you can't place them touching or that they must be X" away from your opponents models unless charging.

 

[Se Chris]

Battlefield Evolution has no 'locked in close combat' rules - being in base to base contact with enemy troops has no effect other than making it difficult for other units to fire into the general mess without hitting their own side.

In order to make a close combat attack, you need to make a Charge action. No Charge, no stabby action.

So: when your SAS show themselves, you can put them on the table anywhere you like.* However, unless they gain an immediate action through some method,** they just stand there.

*I say 'on the table' because I just know someone's going to try revealing them inside a Technical or something. Funny, but no.

**I suggest waiting until a fire zone is placed, then revealing the SAS behind the shooters. They can react to the original Shoot with a Shoot reaction, then follow up on their turn by Charging.

 

[cordas]

Cheers was just looking at the card and thinking of how I will use them when I buy some and the question popped into my head.

I have some experience of the ambush rules due to those cursed skinnie raiders in SST:Evo, so know how to use them, it was when I saw that the SAS also re-roll failed CC attacks that......

Not sure about charging with the SAS if they are in cover as your opponent gets to act 1st and can simply move away or try and gun you down.

 

[Hiromoon]

*I say 'on the table' because I just know someone's going to try revealing them inside a Technical or something. Funny, but no.

Awww!!

That would have been SO AWSOME.

 

[xbowmen]

Battlefield Evolution has no 'locked in close combat' rules - being in base to base contact with enemy troops has no effect other than making it difficult for other units to fire into the general mess without hitting their own side.

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Whoa, you can shoot troops in Base to Base combat? I don't recall seeing anything in the rules on that firing in a melee.

Don't you have to resolve the melee first?
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[lastbesthope]

There is no melee to resolve unless someone made a Charge action. So yes, you can shoot in base to base contact. Use a move to get there and then shoot in your next action.

LBH

 

[Xorrandor]

Whoa, you can shoot troops in Base to Base combat? I don't recall seeing anything in the rules on that firing in a melee.

Don't you have to resolve the melee first?

Well, the melee is usually resolved during the Charge action: at the end of combat, one of the models is going to be moved 2" away. But I suppose you could move into base contact without Charging. The only restriction then would be that you might have obscured sight lines, and is another unit (other than the one with the model in B2B) is firing you run the risk of friendly fire.

 

[cordas]

Jumping SAS out in cover in amongst your opponents models is cool, because if you time it right you get the reaction to shoot (and can't hit yourself) and it means that any of the opponents other units can't shoot at you without risking shooting their own guys.

 

[Paladin]

Well if you wait till they at least get in the 10" circle of reactionary death then they can drop the leader/key units with the snipers and have a good chance to suppress the rest with UGLs. One way or the other, it's going to be UGLY for the enemy.