advise on narn vs EA 3rd age fleet selection

[TGT]

now Picking a 5pt Battle Narn fleet vs EA third age

I thought ...
Battle- 5pt
class level name Flights Points
Bin Tak War 1 Gorith, 2 Frazi 2.0
T' Rann Raid 4 Frazi 1.0
Ka Toc Skirmish 1 Gorith
Ka Toc Skirmish 1 Gorith
T' Rann Raid 4 Frazi 1.0
Ka Toc Skirmish 1 Gorith
Sho'Kov Patrol -
Sho'Kov Patrol -
T' Rann Raid 4 Frazi 1.0
Rothan Raid -
4 Gorith, 14 Frazi 5.0

Bin Tak has Ionic burst

 

[H]

hmmm, lots of frazi minimal e-mine threat, do you suspect your oponent is going fighter light?
Have you considered the G'Karith? personally, I don't use them, but the pulsar mine is a fine anti fighter choice, and this ship is as maneuvreable as anything he will field. I'm also surprised at the inclusion of the T'Rann, have you had some sucess with these? as I find them to be damage magnets and would rather take oter ships.
Bin Tak, it's a fine ship for sure, use those shokobs to maneuvre to shild if you get chance against anything big and scary!

 

[TGT]

thought I'd take wide burst ...anti fighter emines
and Ionic burst to prevent CAB
short charge them where needed and then mob any survivers with the Goriths

yep T' rann's to be damage soaks and shield the Rothan and Bin Tak if needed after they scramble scramble

 

[H]

You put Ionic down, not wide burst as your e-mines you see
I'd be interested to see how this goes, as despite having a few fighter heavy narn fleets, I have never considered taking the carriers.

 

[Chernobyl]

as scary as the Bin-Tak is, in a Battle PL fight I think I'd take 2-G'Quan types instead.

Chern

 

[TGT]

other than more emines and longer range on the Beam
I think a BIn Tak is better overall especially against OMEGA's

 

[H]

in it's current state, the G'Quan (2 of) is not really a match for a Bin Tak, aside from the obvious "crit effect". the obvious drawback of the Bintak, and indeed the G'Quans... T'Loths, Rongoths, is their dismal speed. they have all these up close and personel weapons, and take so long to get them in range.

 

[TGT]

thinking of dropping the Rothan for a Dag Ka and swapping out Ionic bursts for normal emines ....maybe ship breakers...not sure a Bin Tak can make it into range so maybe just normal emines...

 

[H]

thinking of dropping the Rothan for a Dag Ka and swapping out Ionic bursts for normal emines ....maybe ship breakers...not sure a Bin Tak can make it into range so maybe just normal emines...

Personally I think the DagKar is a wet lettuce, It's inferior to a saggi, yet you get two sagis for a dag kar. it's slow, breakable, and e-mines just don't have the punch (the chances of on surviving to get off ship busters are slim to none!) I would like to think in second ed it beciomes skirmish, or gets boosted, but I suspect in reality it will have less e-mine tubes and be as naff as ever

 

[Reaverman]

thinking of dropping the Rothan for a Dag Ka and swapping out Ionic bursts for normal emines ....maybe ship breakers...not sure a Bin Tak can make it into range so maybe just normal emines...

Putting Ship Breakers on Dag'Kars, is like putting toffee fire gaurds on an icream van and sending it into a mine field. They will be next to useless, and the Dag will get boned. I'd either get Wide Burst, or Ionic charges. BTW, remember when you use Ship Breakers, you will lose the E-Mine trait. So no short charging them, and they can be dodged etc.

 

[TGT]

nope meant on the Bin Tak and wether it was too slow to use them

 

[H]

with the exception of the G'Vrahn, all narn ships are too slow for ship breakers.

 

[TGT]

ok will load them out for normal emines

 

[H]

Is your oponent reading this?

 

[TGT]

narn don't do covert or surprises

 

[CZuschlag]

Sure they do! Do you think all those people happily open their doors for the Bat Squad, knowing what is to come? I think there's usually a look of shock and fear just before the start of WHAMWHAMWHAMWHAMWHAM.

 

[Burger]

They do knock before they enter, and you can tell they're coming from the thumping of their boots Hardly sneak attack!

 

[H]

NOBODY expects the narn bat squad, that is one of their weapons, of which they have three.....

 

[CZuschlag]

".... and really nice hats. (flinches) Oh, damn!"

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Narn G'nfess (Say it with a hard G).
Skirmish
Year In Service: 1470
Damage 18/5
Crew 4 Angry Inquisitors
Hull 5
Never really ever turns

Lumbering, Command +1, Red Hats, Very Silly

Comfy Chair Range 12 AD 3 F Weak
Soft Pillows Range 15 AD 2 FASP Super Weak
Hot Cup of Tea Range 8 AD 1 T Antifighter, Weak

The, other, never used, Narn ship.

 

[Davesaint]

thinking of dropping the Rothan for a Dag Ka and swapping out Ionic bursts for normal emines ....maybe ship breakers...not sure a Bin Tak can make it into range so maybe just normal emines...

Personally I think the DagKar is a wet lettuce, It's inferior to a saggi, yet you get two sagis for a dag kar. it's slow, breakable, and e-mines just don't have the punch (the chances of on surviving to get off ship busters are slim to none!) I would like to think in second ed it beciomes skirmish, or gets boosted, but I suspect in reality it will have less e-mine tubes and be as naff as ever

Except that he is fighting a 3rd age EA fleet which does not have access to the Saggi. :wink:

The Dag'Kar is not a bad choice, but 2 G'kariths might be better.


Dave