ACTA RIP....

msprange said:
Tolwyn said:
I agree. Ask the guys from Iron Wind, but keep on selling ship please.

Unfortunately, our licence with Warner Brothers specifically prohibits this, and there will be _no_ chance of changing it.

You're not even allowed to get another company to do the casting? I could see a restriction on not allowing IWM to sell the ships, but not even being allowed to contract out the manufacturing? That's some pretty mean lawyering you got shafted with.
 
Well, I guess my 1st tournament will be the last. This really sucks. I guess I understand, just don't like it.

Here's hoping to new minies from someone.

How about making minies out of styreene, like the pirate ships, or star wars collectible games from Wizkids. They would be cheaper to produce and ship and still give the 3d effect. Some of those ships are really quite detailed and look very nice. As long as they are not "collectible" I wouldn't mind them.

Frank V.
 
Xorrandor said:
tneva82 said:
What's with it that I end up collecting games that end up dead?

Well, at least I'm not the only one... :?

My Epic Eldar sit in my basement these days, alongside my FA Minbari and Vree, to go with my ACtA Vree, BFE USMC, and unpainted Skinnies. The Blood Bowl teams, on the other hand, have actually been seeing some use lately. Go figure...

I sold off all my Epic armies, BFEvo and my Skinnies

Have kept an Eldar BFG fleet

Bloodbowl is such an awesome game though isn't it! :D
 
Frankvas said:
How about making minies out of styreene, like the pirate ships, or star wars collectible games from Wizkids. They would be cheaper to produce and ship and still give the 3d effect. Some of those ships are really quite detailed and look very nice. As long as they are not "collectible" I wouldn't mind them.

This came up on another thread too. Someone is making such a game in cardstock (so you print your own: definitely not collectible!). But I think counters are a better alternative. None of the in-game stacking issues with colliding wings, easy storage, and prep time is neglegible.
 
Hi Guys,
It does seem like very bad news for ACTA, I must confess I personally think this will kill ACTA. But, however I am not angry at mongoose. Personally I am very grateful that they have made such a brilliant game for several years. It is the only miniatures game I have ever been interested in playing for more than a few games. I must confess that this is due to producing counter sheets for every ship in the game. I usually avoid miniatures games as I like the flexibility of being able to play any race in the game I feel like, rather than picking my one or two favourites and building a good fleet of them alone. While the loss of miniatures doesn't affect me or my group personally, we are a 100% counters group, I realise that this will probably kill off a great number of players, most of whom love using the miniatures, and so mongoose will not have enough players to make even the books profitable after a year or so.

I would like to thank Matt and the Mongoose team for making a great game that I have truly enjoyed playing and will fondly remember the rest of my life. Even when the news is terrible doesn't mean you can't go down with style, so I'd like to suggest we all sing "abide with me" and enjoy the last year or so and whatever supplements Matt puts out. I think it was great that you were able to come out with 2e before the line finishes, it is truly a great system and the definitive ruleset and fleet list for a great game. Congratulations and good job on 2e it really did iron out the few kinks from 1e and SFOS. 2e really does make ACTA a "finished" product and one of the best games made.

Matt, to really go out in style and add to the sense of completeness of 2e do you think you will be able to do a 2e counter set for all the extra ships not covered in SFOS. If you don't want to get new artists to draw the new ships in 2D from above, you could always photograph the miniatures of the ships from directly above and use that as the counter image, not much more complicated than taking a photo and printing it really and they would look great. Changing the ship pictures in the books from artists drawings to photo's of the miniatures looked great, I don't see why it wouldn't work for the counters.

I don't know how long it will take for ACTA to die, but I for one will eagerly buy any new supplements you put out and relish the last months of the game before you close it down entirely. By the way I would still like to see new fleet books come out, the Ipsha, Hurr and especially Techno Mages look very interesting even if there are no miniatures being made. If you could release counters for them I'll buy them too, if you can't release counters, hell I'd still buy the books and use substitutes if I have to. If you do release counters for the individual fleet books, I know I'd prefer a proper counter set with half a dozen of each ship on it rather than just being able to photocopy the last page of the book, but I'll take what I can get.

In short I will buy any book or counter set you release for this game for as long as you keep releasing them and when the ship finally goes under, well singing abide with me wasn't such a bad way to go.

Warrant Officer Ellen Ripley.....Signing off
 
The discount seems good at first glance. But isn't this undercutting those who already stock and sell the products?

Hmmm, now I'm wondering if Mongoose are selling off all their stock before going bankrupt. The fiasco that was Battlefield: Evolution might have been what triggered this.

I'd be tempted to pick up a few fleets with the discount, but after the news that the game is dead, well it's a dead game and not many people play those. Think my local gaming club will drop this... now where did I put that Spacedreadnought 3000 rulebook?
 
mrambassador1 said:
Matt, to really go out in style and add to the sense of completeness of 2e do you think you will be able to do a 2e counter set for all the extra ships not covered in SFOS. If you don't want to get new artists to draw the new ships in 2D from above, you could always photograph the miniatures of the ships from directly above and use that as the counter image, not much more complicated than taking a photo and printing it really and they would look great. Changing the ship pictures in the books from artists drawings to photo's of the miniatures looked great, I don't see why it wouldn't work for the counters.

Heck do it for all the ships, even the previous ones...
 
Hm, looks like I need to search for those Full Thrust rules.
At least you can create any ships with this, so you won't be limited to one model line...
 
When I logged on to the forums today, I feel like I got a punched in the stomach. While I understand their need to disband the miniatures line, I do not like the decision.

I would like to see some specific campaign books come out though this year,
especially a Dilgar war campaign(with lots of varients for all races involved)
 
Play it with counters, he says. Easily released package, he says. Are you joking? Who's going to buy into a counters-only game?

1, SFB lasted long enough as counters only.

2, The four of us who play bought into it as counters only. Our fleets are part counter, Mongoose/AoG Fleet Action/Brigade models/GZG models. Plus the Mongoose mods site gave us a use for all the small scale Trek & Star Wars models we have.

3, I seriously doubt we're the only ones either.

p.s. This is a vote for! (But some more counters would be nice, even if only as a PDF).
 
My Vote is for continued support -

-- A new Counter Set - ABSOLUTELY
-- Campaign Books - Sure, they're neat
-- Tweaked or revised fleets - ABSOLUTELY, specifically Gaim and Drazi, or at least those few "problem ships" debated ad nauseam.

Let's all keep the game going as we can, in the hopes that the future may hold more minis...someday!

I plan to order at least 3 more fleets in the next few weeks, so keep those machines running smoothly!

-Dale
 
I think it's about time I chimed in....

It saddens me to no end that the minis for this game will no longer be produced. Yet, I can gladly say that it wasn't the minis but the universe itself that kept me in the game. I've done my best to keep the ACTA alive in my area and this small setback will NOT deter me from continuing to do so. PLEASE keep producing books, PLEASE continue to produce campaigns. It is my hope and faith that everyone at MGP will do their hardest to get these minis back into production for their loyal customers, who will continue to visit the boards, and come up with our own campaigns and what-not until MGP can continue production on minis yet again.


for all those nay-sayers out there... keep your eyes on the boards, so that way when there is a re-surgence from MGP, and you all start buying minis again, I'll happily PM you with an "I TOLD YOU SO!"


To all the folks at MGP, I wish you all the best of luck in your endeavors, and here to hoping that this decision will only make you stronger as a producer of some of the finest Roleplaying and miniatures game in the market.
 
ShadowDave said:
Play it with counters, he says. Easily released package, he says. Are you joking? Who's going to buy into a counters-only game?

1, SFB lasted long enough as counters only.

2, The four of us who play bought into it as counters only. Our fleets are part counter, Mongoose/AoG Fleet Action/Brigade models/GZG models. Plus the Mongoose mods site gave us a use for all the small scale Trek & Star Wars models we have.

3, I seriously doubt we're the only ones either.

p.s. This is a vote for! (But some more counters would be nice, even if only as a PDF).

I agree with all three points. . .
 
after getting through 18 pages... Does this mean that all I have done written for S&P gone to dust like the Earth Minbari war update i bled over for over a month and the Ghosts of Omalos i was going to start after the RPG version?

Its gotta be the shipping and import tax from the USA
 
darklord4 said:
mrambassador1 said:
Matt, to really go out in style and add to the sense of completeness of 2e do you think you will be able to do a 2e counter set for all the extra ships not covered in SFOS. If you don't want to get new artists to draw the new ships in 2D from above, you could always photograph the miniatures of the ships from directly above and use that as the counter image, not much more complicated than taking a photo and printing it really and they would look great. Changing the ship pictures in the books from artists drawings to photo's of the miniatures looked great, I don't see why it wouldn't work for the counters.

Heck do it for all the ships, even the previous ones...


Yeah, that's what I meant. I think photos of the miniatures from above would look cool. I'd love to see and would definately buy a full counter set of every ship in the game using photos of miniatures from above
 
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