a new kingdom?

p1fx

Mongoose
would it be a scaraligious act to create a new kingdom within howards world? i was thinking an island kingdom bit of the coast of shem or argos. just that i cant really fit what i want into existing lands too easily, i could always switch to runequest i suppose but have no knowledge of that system at all.
 
I guess a lost kingdom on a remote island won't hurt. The Border Kingdom might also be a place to build your own stuff. There are a lot of unexplored lands in the Hyborian Age still left for your imagination.
 
How does switching systems (to runequest) help you with the setting issue you're dealing with?

I've always been a fan of pacific islander mythology, and have considered making some island kingdoms east of Mu.
 
I loved Howard because he put every kingdom that ever existed from 1600BC to 1600 AD in his world. I think if you keep the technology inline with what's given (nothing mor serious than wind or water powered devices, no steam technology) you should be okay.

The border kingdom is prime real estate for development, as well as the Black Kingdoms, and Shem (since its so large and cris-crossed with other nationalities).
 
oh there wouldnt be anything like steam technology, but to be honest shem etc wouldnt fit too well, i want a more temperate climate aka european and a western feel and architecture as most of howards world seems quite eastern , not that i have read much of howard hence another reason to change systems.
switching systems would help as then i can just create a new world to suit my needs, plus i cant actually persuade hardly anyone to play conan, and am having trouble with the structuring of adventures, as with long breaks required for healing im having to water them down lots, spells are a bit naff to in my eyes
 
Spectator said:
I loved Howard because he put every kingdom that ever existed from 1600BC to 1600 AD in his world. I think if you keep the technology inline with what's given (nothing mor serious than wind or water powered devices, no steam technology) you should be okay.
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which one is britain then?
yeah thats kind of the kingdom im looking for either britain or france medieval style well not that late in history, but late enough for civilised cities windmills, etc nice dense wooded area to have natives running about in the celts or woads, a northern kingdom of bernicia warring against the south eg romans and a lost kingdom accursed by the walking dead eg ireland full of zombies n ghouls few struggling surving towns. oh and the great fens full of lizard men led by the snake men kings eg norwich area.
 
You are describing Howard's vision of Aquilonia. However the owners of the license have chosen to depict Aquilonia as some variant of Late Imperial Rome. Frankly I was always against this. It is in direct contrast to Howard's descriptions which are properly feudal medieval in style. I have to say that the artwork from Funcom is poutstanding, however, but it isn't what Howard envisioned. As such, in the new vision of Hyboria the style of country you want to insert is inappropriate, especially on some presumably throwback island stuck out in the Western Ocean.
 
p1fx said:
would it be a scaraligious act to create a new kingdom within howards world?
This shouldn't be difficult. You can even create one small kingdom anywhere, say in a lost vale with hard to cross mountain passes (e. g. Kingdom of Meru).
 
Brythunia sounds like what you want. barely anything is known about the place so it's perfect for making your own kingdom out of it.
 
That's a ticking time bomb, though. Spending a lot of time developing a background and finishing just as Mongoose bring out the Brythunia/Corinthia sourcebook might be a little soul destroying.
 
There are so many locales that REH never got around to exploring, so feel free to create! I say, if it works for you and your players, and is "true" to the feel of the game, then go for it.
 
so you think its not worth trying or appropriate then bear?
shame though as system was nice well apart from spells, but will look at using a system like c+c instead cheers. although as im going to be producing a few cthulhu monographs now funding is here so it may make sense to use basic role playings system for fantasy too, if the new version ever gets released lol
 
Oh, I think it's totally appropriate. As has beern pointed out, Hyboria under Howard's pen was only sketchily covered outside the main storylines. My words are simply cautionary. Pick wisely and try and keep within the theme of the region you choose.

For me, I'd go withh the Border Kingdom. the place is practically chaotic as it is, and you could quite easily insert an area ruled by a noble or two of the style you want. It's the right sort of area you are hinting at as well.

Hyboria is there to be enjoyed, so fill your boots. :D
 
I'm somewhat confused by what people are concerned with. But, if it helps any, here's my take on:

a. Britain - Aquilonia is supposedly more France than Britain (with a Roman element) but has elements of it and the Bossonian Marches are supposed to be Wales-ish, while Brythunia seems almost Britain + Poland = Who Knows?, so there's no obvious answer besides the Bossonian Marches, but there's options.

b. Britain 2 - If you don't care about perfectly trying to simulate Conan's world as written about by Howard and maybe others, it really doesn't matter, just make anything convenient Britain.

c. Official Material - I really don't get why it matters whether some new supplement comes in that details some place that has already been detailed in someone's campaign. If the GM went to the effort of detailing something, then, that's what it is. This is a RPG - GMs are gods, not publishers.

d. European feel - The Hyborian nations are mostly European, though there are all sorts of (supposed) mixes. Some of them seem quite poorly developed, like Corinthia (landlocked Greece?), Ophir (Northern Italy?), Brythunia (Poland?), and Border Kingdoms, to where it's hard to say what they should be and so could be whatever you feel like without giving fits to Conan purists. Giving any of the Hyborian nations more of a European feel than what may come across seems easy enough - call Aquilonia France, Nemedia Germany, Gunderland Netherlands, Bossonian Marches Britain, Cimmeria Ireland, etc. - if it makes for a better world.
 
well ive looked through return to the road of kings and the border kingdom seems totaly unsuitable as its already fully populated theres a map showing lots of cities etc although its not on the border kingdom pages, whats with the maps in that book by the way, some are there, some arent some have lots of detail and some are just cropped version of hyboria map from inner covers. let me guess i have to buy the kingdom books to get a map. no hang on ive been there before and bought books like shem stygia etc and they didnt have maps either.
cant seem to get this hyboria is essentially europe as im getting told, it seems essentialy africa with asia added on in maps and whiley eastern in feel. my french friend says that aquilonia is certainly not france in any form likewise with his polish flat mate and brythunia. i know a german too and some italians but they dont have any knowledge of conan so wouldnt be able to comment. but the general opinion is that some of the peoples from history may have been lifted out like romans etc but what they have been placed into is a primitive eastern parady of their culture.
 
just reading the wiki page now although bit confused with what is presented there and in the game books, some areas are described as based on middle ages yet in the games everything seems much earlier and more primitive than that.
 
Old Bear said:
That's a ticking time bomb, though. Spending a lot of time developing a background and finishing just as Mongoose bring out the Brythunia/Corinthia sourcebook might be a little soul destroying.
Thanks for the info.
 
Hey, that's nothing official! Remember, I'm out of the company now and to the best of my knowledge Brythunia was not even bening contemplated for a sourcebook at the time I left.
 
cant seem to get this hyboria is essentially europe as im getting told, it seems essentialy africa with asia added on in maps and whiley eastern in feel.

I'm not sure what you mean. If you are talking land shapes, its imaginary (although some effort has been made to claim its Europe pre cataclysm).

http://hyboria.xoth.net/maps/original.gif

As far as culture goes, Aquilonia can be considered based on Medieval Western Europe with a strong fantasy dash. Its not eastern at all.
 
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