A good all round Crusade era fleet for EA ?- 5 point raid.
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The Hobbybox
Mongoose
Another alternative is to sacrifice the Hermes (initiative sinks) for Thunderbolt fighters.
You're likely to have the initiative in the game as you're facing a league fleet and Thunderbolts are very good for taking down smaller targets if you swarm the target. (Provided they haven't got any e-mines)
You could also replace the Hermes with Myrmidon's, initiative sinks with teeth!
You're likely to have the initiative in the game as you're facing a league fleet and Thunderbolts are very good for taking down smaller targets if you swarm the target. (Provided they haven't got any e-mines)
You could also replace the Hermes with Myrmidon's, initiative sinks with teeth!
I'd actually ask which leage fleet? as they play quite differently,
Abbai, interceptors and tough, need beams and Multiwarhead missiles to take them down, drazi generally fast and tough, so something maneouvreable that can take damage is useful, Vree, nippy buggers but weak hulled, so anything that can maneuvrewell, and do "efficient" damage, and the Brakiri are generally reasonably tough, but lack beams low down (apart from one ship) so interceptors are your friend!
i mean personally, I like to go Chronos heavy and get them flying in a formation with overlapping arcs, although the Marathon is a good damage dealer, certainly remember to use the lasers against those vree and anything with interceptors, pulse cannon against Drazi usually.
I missed the pak out... um, pak are tough enemies, beware!!
Also, I'd take a Hermes over a Myrmidon, on the basis of range!, the myrmidon has a tough hull, but only short range weapons.
Abbai, interceptors and tough, need beams and Multiwarhead missiles to take them down, drazi generally fast and tough, so something maneouvreable that can take damage is useful, Vree, nippy buggers but weak hulled, so anything that can maneuvrewell, and do "efficient" damage, and the Brakiri are generally reasonably tough, but lack beams low down (apart from one ship) so interceptors are your friend!
i mean personally, I like to go Chronos heavy and get them flying in a formation with overlapping arcs, although the Marathon is a good damage dealer, certainly remember to use the lasers against those vree and anything with interceptors, pulse cannon against Drazi usually.
I missed the pak out... um, pak are tough enemies, beware!!
Also, I'd take a Hermes over a Myrmidon, on the basis of range!, the myrmidon has a tough hull, but only short range weapons.
Locutus9956
Mongoose
Chronos are your best friends but beware of Brakiri and Abbai.
Brakiri have big beams which are a Chronos' worst enemies and Abbai have bukcets of their own interceptors that will somewhat mitigate your railguns and pulse cannons.
Drazi might at first glance seem ideal Chronos killers seing as pretty much ALL their weapons are beams, but theyre generally very weak beams lacking SAP or even AP in many cases that tend to barely scratch the Hull 6ey goodness that is the Chronos (and they absolutely EAT low hull targets. Also Drazi speed favours slashing attacks that make it hard to bring weapons to bear on them, a tactic which plain fails against a ship like the Chronos that can dish it out equally well in any direction
Basically: Chronos ftw, though vs Abbai you might want to consider long range snipers like Omegas and Apollos with multiwarhead missiles.
Against Vree... well frankly, Chronos are pretty much tailor made for killing Vree.
Vree weapons? ALL interceptable and punchy but with relatively low numbers of dice. They will hardly score any hits on you.
Vree ships? Super maneuverable, designed to get out of your fire arcs. Oh wait, you CAN'T get out of a Chronos' fire arc? :twisted:
Vree hulls fragile and die rapily when actually shot at, they rely on avoiding return fire, which when your target can fire any direction is bloody hard. Ok so the Vree DO have a slight range advantage with their main weapons but if they stand back and snipe with their main guns only theyre never going to get past interceptors and if you manuever right they wont be able to avoid getting shot every turn anyway.
PakMara I cant really comment on having never fought them.
Raiders, well actually vs raiders the good old hyperion is rather handy, battlewagons are actually really bloody hard to kill with non beam weaponry. Dont worry about the Delta Vs though sure theres billions of them but 2 starfury pilots floating in vac suits with PPGs could kill them all
Brakiri have big beams which are a Chronos' worst enemies and Abbai have bukcets of their own interceptors that will somewhat mitigate your railguns and pulse cannons.
Drazi might at first glance seem ideal Chronos killers seing as pretty much ALL their weapons are beams, but theyre generally very weak beams lacking SAP or even AP in many cases that tend to barely scratch the Hull 6ey goodness that is the Chronos (and they absolutely EAT low hull targets. Also Drazi speed favours slashing attacks that make it hard to bring weapons to bear on them, a tactic which plain fails against a ship like the Chronos that can dish it out equally well in any direction
Basically: Chronos ftw, though vs Abbai you might want to consider long range snipers like Omegas and Apollos with multiwarhead missiles.
Against Vree... well frankly, Chronos are pretty much tailor made for killing Vree.
Vree weapons? ALL interceptable and punchy but with relatively low numbers of dice. They will hardly score any hits on you.
Vree ships? Super maneuverable, designed to get out of your fire arcs. Oh wait, you CAN'T get out of a Chronos' fire arc? :twisted:
Vree hulls fragile and die rapily when actually shot at, they rely on avoiding return fire, which when your target can fire any direction is bloody hard. Ok so the Vree DO have a slight range advantage with their main weapons but if they stand back and snipe with their main guns only theyre never going to get past interceptors and if you manuever right they wont be able to avoid getting shot every turn anyway.
PakMara I cant really comment on having never fought them.
Raiders, well actually vs raiders the good old hyperion is rather handy, battlewagons are actually really bloody hard to kill with non beam weaponry. Dont worry about the Delta Vs though sure theres billions of them but 2 starfury pilots floating in vac suits with PPGs could kill them all
Have to disagree with the characterization of the Drazi above.
All their beams are at least AP...most SAP.
While slashing attacks seem like a good idea, on most maps you can't do it. You have to turn into your opponent to fire you beams, and are rarely fast enough to overfly after a shot. This means you are usually stuck going straight into the enemies guns. If you try to turn away you likely just get shot for no return.
Also a lot of drazi firepower is tied up in twin linked guns. Interceptors really reduce the second turn hit (assuming you can line up a turn two shot).
Ripple
All their beams are at least AP...most SAP.
While slashing attacks seem like a good idea, on most maps you can't do it. You have to turn into your opponent to fire you beams, and are rarely fast enough to overfly after a shot. This means you are usually stuck going straight into the enemies guns. If you try to turn away you likely just get shot for no return.
Also a lot of drazi firepower is tied up in twin linked guns. Interceptors really reduce the second turn hit (assuming you can line up a turn two shot).
Ripple
Locutus9956
Mongoose
Ok I was tired Got the drazi wrong slightly, what I meant was that their beams are mostly single damage so they will need ALOT of hits to be very effective (which they will get less of vs hull 6)
Got the drazi wrong slightly, what I meant was that their beams are mostly single damage so they will need ALOT of hits to be very effective (which they will get less of vs hull 6)Locutus9956
Mongoose
Or you could get some miniatures :wink:
Thats actually one of the Chronos' best features
4 Raid ships in an affordable box set? Yes please .
.... wait a minute.... just checked the MGP online store.... WHERE THE HELL HAS THE CHRONOS BOX SET GONE?!?!?!?!
edit: Oh well you can still go here: http://www.dancingdryad.com/catalog/productinfopath-24_93_113-569.html
Thats actually one of the Chronos' best features
4 Raid ships in an affordable box set? Yes please ..... wait a minute.... just checked the MGP online store.... WHERE THE HELL HAS THE CHRONOS BOX SET GONE?!?!?!?!
edit: Oh well you can still go here: http://www.dancingdryad.com/catalog/productinfopath-24_93_113-569.html
lastbesthope
Mongoose
Thigs like that are why I stockpile my minis and makes up for the fact that the fleet boxes got cheaper a while back.
:lol:
LBH
:lol:
LBH