4000 british force

[tneva82]

Planning to collect both British and German force(German obvious enough, British because in all my WW2 gaming they have been most neglected in favour of USA or more likely Soviet Union. Time to change things!). Big points since I prefer big games and it reduces impact one lucky kill/lousy attack roll has on game. Besides 1/72 scale is cheap enough that would be shame to not use it to your advantage Ruleswise I don't expect it to be too slow. SST handled nicely big games so why not World at War?

4000 pts british army:

platoon #1, infantry platoon:

command section, additional team 130
infantry section 140
infantry section 140
infantry section(M3, pintle MG) 255
infantry section(M3) 220

Command team since it just makes sense in this big battle. Also additional PIAT's can't be that bad since I can expect lots of panzers. 2 squads have half tracks and gave additional squad since I ended up with points to spare.

MMG support team 75
MMG support team 75
medium mortar team 75
6 pdr anti-tank gun 75

MMG's seems like useful weapons to support infantry attack. Mortar since they feel right for infantry support plus some artirelly is never bad thing. 6pdr to give some AT punch though where's my 17 pounder AT guns :evil:

churchill VII 330
churchill VII 330
sherman firefly 285

Something to counter enemy panzers. Churchills instead of cromwell's as cromwell's are bit trickier to buy. Churchill's I can find easily in 1/72 scale.

hawker typhoon 1B 260
hawker typhoon 1B 260

Some serious air power to piss off german panzers!

total for platoon: 2650

platoon #1, commando platoon:

commando squad 250
commando squad(sten SMG) 250

Well minimum requirements met. Sten squad will be deployed in ambush and revealed in co-ordination of rest of my forces. Those SMG's ought to hurt them badly.

commando anti-tank team 70
commando anti-tank team 70

PIAT's, PIAT's, PIAT's. Me not like panzers! Atleast on this side of them!

sherman A3 210
sherman A3 210
sherman firefly 285

Some cheaper tank support and firefly. Shermans just might draw their attention from firefly's. Or maybe not. But atleast they provide something more formidable than PIAT to throw to their face and who knows. Maybe with 6 panzers I can get to flank of any panther/tiger who might show up where I might be able to hurt them.

total for platoon: 1345

grand total: 3995

So some 80 troopers, 6 tanks, AT gun, 2 halftracks and 2 airplanes. Too much tanks? I might take bit more infantry but figured 6 squads should be atleast enough to try things out.

Depending on mission/terrain I probably will be on the move trying to surround german forces(especially panzers). I have suspicion I won't do well in plain exchange of firepower face to face. MMG's will try to keep enemy infantry down though their horrible MG-42's could put dent to that plan but until I get some flank shots tanks(except firefly's) will be supporting attack against infantry giving some extra oomph.

Too bad first batch of models won't be here for about 2-3 weeks. Shop I ordered on holiday :evil:

 

[Laffe]

Looks good. IMO, you should field your tanks in groups of threes when running this size of games; they were really allocated in troops and not singly.

Source for 1/72 cromwells: Revell kit (very nice), Armourfast kit (cheap) and a die-cast prepainted one (I forget the maker, but it's not Dragon) if you are lazy 8)

Source for 1/72 17-pounders: none, but there are some 20mm in metal -- SHQ springs to mind -- and Revell has rereleased the old Matchbox 1/76 kit with a truck and a jeep.

What make of figures did you buy, and where did you order from?

 

[tneva82]

Source for 1/72 17-pounders: none, but there are some 20mm in metal -- SHQ springs to mind -- and Revell has rereleased the old Matchbox 1/76 kit with a truck and a jeep.

What make of figures did you buy, and where did you order from?

Oh I can find models for 17 pounders but they aren't included in the rules :evil: . Of course I can just price 'em up but would be nice to have them official

As for kits mix of revel, airfix, italieri plus some others. Basicly whichever I happened to found to have what I need As for where, certain finnish store. Odds are you haven't heard of it unless you are from Finland.

 

[Laffe]

Oh I can find models for 17 pounders but they aren't included in the rules :evil: . Of course I can just price 'em up but would be nice to have them official

Sorry, thought they were in the rules already. They should be in there... :shock: sure we can get stats from the firefly, but points cost?

As for where, certain finnish store. Odds are you haven't heard of it unless you are from Finland.

Probably not, as I'm in Sweden. But there are few good swedish stores, so if they have an internet page and delivers outside Finland, I'm interested.

 

[Agis]

17 pdr Infantry Gun:
Use Firefly stats
Add the following to all 6 pdr Anti-Tank Gun units:
Option:
• 17 pdr. Gun: The 6 pdr. gun may be upgraded to a 17 pdr. Gun.
This costs +60 points and replaces the 6 pdr. anti-tank gun with a 17 pdr. Gun.

 

[Laffe]

17 pdr Infantry Gun:
Use Firefly stats
Add the following to all 6 pdr Anti-Tank Gun units:
Option:
• 17 pdr. Gun: The 6 pdr. gun may be upgraded to a 17 pdr. Gun.
This costs +60 points and replaces the 6 pdr. anti-tank gun with a 17 pdr. Gun.

THANK YOU

Now I have a reason to finish that Matchbox 17-pounder and SHQ crew 8)

 

[Lord David the Denied]

To the OP, that looks like a solid force, given how little I know about the rules. It's historically viable, at least, and you could well see a force like that on operations in the Second World War. Nice use of combined arms and supporting assets.

The one thing I'd change is the Shermans, swap them for Cromwells or Fireflies. I see the Sherman as an American tank even though we had plenty on the lend-lease program. Use British tanks, just for the look and principle of it. :wink:

 

[Alexb83]

The Sherman was by far more numerous in British service - 17,000 tanks - than the Cromwell (3,066 ever built). When you consider how many went to the Russians, we had almost as many as the Yanks.

 

[tneva82]

Probably not, as I'm in Sweden. But there are few good swedish stores, so if they have an internet page and delivers outside Finland, I'm interested.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/martti.kuivalainen/

Don't know about delivering outside finland. Might be worth asking though aren't there similar stores in Sweden :shock:

 

[tneva82]

THANK YOU

Now I have a reason to finish that Matchbox 17-pounder and SHQ crew 8)

I echo this one Hello Mr. Panzer. Meet 17-pounder :twisted:

 

[tneva82]

The one thing I'd change is the Shermans, swap them for Cromwells or Fireflies. I see the Sherman as an American tank even though we had plenty on the lend-lease program. Use British tanks, just for the look and principle of it. :wink:

I might switch them to cromwell's later once I figure out source for them but for now shermans are "bit" easier to come by. Store I linked doesn't sell them(well atleast I asked about them and he had no idea about them). One source would be certain resin producing company but that would become bit pricey :evil:

 

[Laffe]

Probably not, as I'm in Sweden. But there are few good swedish stores, so if they have an internet page and delivers outside Finland, I'm interested.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/martti.kuivalainen/

Don't know about delivering outside finland. Might be worth asking though aren't there similar stores in Sweden :shock:

Actually, GOOD hobby stores in Sweden are few and far between. There are some, but none where I live, and postage in Sweden is pretty expensive for some reason. I also dabble in model railroading, and the cost of sending a 5kg package from Germany to Sweden is about the same as sending a 1kg package within Sweden. And the german package usually arrives faster!!!

So I usually order my model kits from england or the USA, but am always on the lookout for other sources.

 

[tneva82]

So I usually order my model kits from england or the USA, but am always on the lookout for other sources.

Well check the Kuivalainen then. They conviniently do have the webpage in swedish as well so navigating there shouldn't be hard.

Not sure wether they post to Sweden or what payment options they accept outside Finland but emails work and he's usually pretty fast in replying even now when he's on holiday.

 

[Lord David the Denied]

The Sherman was by far more numerous in British service - 17,000 tanks - than the Cromwell (3,066 ever built). When you consider how many went to the Russians, we had almost as many as the Yanks.

We can't have had 17,000 Shermans in British service... :shock:

 

[tneva82]

The Sherman was by far more numerous in British service - 17,000 tanks - than the Cromwell (3,066 ever built). When you consider how many went to the Russians, we had almost as many as the Yanks.

We can't have had 17,000 Shermans in British service... :shock:

According to wikipedia yes you had:

The British Empire received 17,184 Sherman tanks under Lend-Lease, roughly 78% of all Shermans provided world wide under this program.

 

[Lord David the Denied]

Bloody hell. OK, then, keep the damn Shermans! :lol:

I just think the Cromwell is a cool tank... :wink:

 

[tneva82]

Bloody hell. OK, then, keep the damn Shermans! :lol:

I just think the Cromwell is a cool tank... :wink:

No doubt and once I get cheaper stuff I'll add some cromwell's into mix. But first I want lots o' cheaper stuff so we have variety of stuff to choose from before getting the pricier models.

 

[Alexb83]

Bloody hell. OK, then, keep the damn Shermans! :lol:

I just think the Cromwell is a cool tank... :wink:

It was certainly faster

But then you'd run the chance of shredding your final drive, which is why they doctored the engine for the Comet.

Personally I'd go with the odd 17pdr sp. Achilles - reasonably well armoured, fast, big old gun. Definately an ambush weapon, though.