200 ton Yacht : Alternate style

wbnc

Cosmic Mongoose
"You expect me to be seen in THAT???"
Sort of how I expect a lot of young nobles to react to a Standard Type Y...it ain't the most stylish thing on the market, and it can even land on a planet. It's fine fr business or diplomatic runs but it's not exactly something to show off at the Regatta.
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This version I tried to make a little more sporty and gave it some streamlining. I resisted the urge to arm it.....(inserting muttering about silly nobles without at least a frakking beam laser to their name) Just so the players still have to come to the rescue when they come across a yacht to slow to run, unarmored, and unarmed...

It is compatible with existing deck plans since measurements are the same. although the maneuver drives are mounted in those nacelles at the rear instead of exposed. so the engineering areas are split above and below the passenger area, and the ships boat would exit between them.... I will get around to a proper deck plan as soon as I finish the stack of them I have on my desk....the stack I set aside to do this before I deleted the whole directory.

Basic changes would be streamlining, and holographic hull...just for show.
 
fusor said:
That looks very nice! Very sporty :)
Well head on down to your Nearest Interstellar Emporium and pick up yours now. With approved credit, you can fly it away today.

And just for you, if you buy an extended service plan we'll throw in the first Tank of LH2 and your first lubricant recycling is on us.
 
While I like the shape, the colors just make me think of a target drone used for gunner training. :mrgreen:
 
-Daniel- said:
While I like the shape, the colors just make me think of a target drone used for gunner training. :mrgreen:

thrust 1, no armor, nor guns, it's basically a very sporty, very expensive target drone :P
 
Though y'know, if Nobles have millions of creds to spare, I wonder if they would treat ships like sports cars (or, I guess, sea yachts). Maybe there's manufacturers that specialise in really high end luxury yachts that each have their own character, and they only make a limited run of a dozen or something. Maybe they can even get bespoke yachts designed for them, so every noble would have a unique ship (why get a common as muck "off the shelf" one, after all).

Also, "yacht" is a really weird looking word when you write it a few times. :)
 
fusor said:
Though y'know, if Nobles have millions of creds to spare, I wonder if they would treat ships like sports cars (or, I guess, sea yachts). Maybe there's manufacturers that specialise in really high end luxury yachts that each have their own character, and they only make a limited run of a dozen or something. Maybe they can even get bespoke yachts designed for them, so every noble would have a unique ship (why get a common as muck "off the shelf" one, after all).

Also, "yacht" is a really weird looking word when you write it a few times. :)

I think they Type Y, and other 200 ton yachts would be the Imperium version of a personalized private 747. If you own one you aren't quite to the point where you can walk into the shipyard managers office and order a one off hull but yer getting close.

I imagine a lot of these would also be working yachts. The owners use them for business trips, to entertain guests and clients and travel without having to rely on the scheduled transport lines.
 
To me, a Yacht starts at the Deck Plan.

All crewmembers and crew locations, with the exception of Steward workspaces, and possibly the Bridge, and maybe the Captain’s Cabin, if he’s notable and worth showing off from time to time, are confined to “steerage”, wherever the equivalent of that may be. Depending on the snobbiness of the Owner, windows to crew cabins may be completely prohibited; so as to prevent others from seeing “the contemptible manner in which the crew comports themselves without the strictness of the chain of command present”.

The extension of this mindset is, unless the Owner has commanded a given crew member to be “fetched”, they should not see those crew members, ever; not while boarding, not while eating, not during an emergency, and certainly not while they are abandoning those wretches to die (or, perhaps more importantly, vice-versa). Areas and Passageways should be laid out for exclusive use by either the Owner and his guests, or the Crew. If it means a separate airlock for the Crew, all the better!


There should be glass canopies of various sorts, to enjoy the view at various locales. Often overhead, yeah, but sometimes in the floor... so that guests may “dance upon the stars themselves”... Well-constructed Yachts will use clever architectural tricks like infinity pools to hide the massive structures necessary between large glass sections, so as to maintain as impressive an open view as possible.

Are these things safe? Honest answers range from, “For that price, it can be engineered to be safe...” to “For that price, I can arrange for a bribe to have paperwork declare it safe...”


What do these things mean for the external design of a Yacht? First, all the best space is reserved for the Owner, and Crew sections are as hidden as possible, save for the Bridge, which is both necessary, and often embellished on principle. Second, more glass, presented architecturally. Because, to rich idiots, safety is something people do, not objects.
 
Tenacious-Techhunter said:
To me, a Yacht starts at the Deck Plan.

All crewmembers and crew locations, with the exception of Steward workspaces, and possibly the Bridge, and maybe the Captain’s Cabin, if he’s notable and worth showing off from time to time, are confined to “steerage”, wherever the equivalent of that may be. Depending on the snobbiness of the Owner, windows to crew cabins may be completely prohibited; so as to prevent others from seeing “the contemptible manner in which the crew comports themselves without the strictness of the chain of command present”.

The extension of this mindset is, unless the Owner has commanded a given crew member to be “fetched”, they should not see those crew members, ever; not while boarding, not while eating, not during an emergency, and certainly not while they are abandoning those wretches to die (or, perhaps more importantly, vice-versa). Areas and Passageways should be laid out for exclusive use by either the Owner and his guests, or the Crew. If it means a separate airlock for the Crew, all the better!


There should be glass canopies of various sorts, to enjoy the view at various locales. Often overhead, yeah, but sometimes in the floor... so that guests may “dance upon the stars themselves”... Well-constructed Yachts will use clever architectural tricks like infinity pools to hide the massive structures necessary between large glass sections, so as to maintain as impressive an open view as possible.

Are these things safe? Honest answers range from, “For that price, it can be engineered to be safe...” to “For that price, I can arrange for a bribe to have paperwork declare it safe...”


What do these things mean for the external design of a Yacht? First, all the best space is reserved for the Owner, and Crew sections are as hidden as possible, save for the Bridge, which is both necessary, and often embellished on principle. Second, more glass, presented architecturally. Because, to rich idiots, safety is something people do, not objects.

Thats definitely one way to look at the yacht. and with a larger yacht it might be viable. But in a small 200 ton vessel ,there isn't room for that sort of segregation of crew, and embellishments. your Basically dealing with something the size of an An-225 ou can allow for some separation such as private lounge for passengers only, and putting crew quarters on another deck. but that about it, The space just isn't there for extravagant measures.

The few private yachts I've seen. mostly smaller coastal sailing craft, one 100 foot with engines I'd have killed for on the boat I was working on..they were CLEAN, and no duct tape and pipe clamps in sight. The largest one was definitely for comfort. I don't want to know how hard it is to keep hand stitched leather sofas in good condition surrounded by sea water. they were owned by working rich though. Guys who were making deals while they were cruising around.

About four or five times a season the owner would bring down clients to take a cruise out to the Bahamas or just cruise the coast while they drank and talked business. On the way, he would swing by the company docks, take the clients on a tour of the work boats, and the offices. take a chopper out to a couple of the rigs we were supporting....the whole shebang... He spent money hand over fist on those trips..but then again he kept us in work and made money hand over fist.

I got to take a look around one visit.The crew was housed in one area but had run of the ship to attend to their duties. their quarters were smaller and rather plain but very comfortable for a room tucked below decks. The owner was fond of showing it off to anyone who happened to be around the docks.They were paid twice what I was and could take showers whenever they wanted to, dinner was cooked on a real stove, not a glorified hot plate, and they got to wear clothes that weren't grease stained and caked with salt half the time...lucky son of a ...sorry rambling again...

That is sort of what I can see the 200 tonners being used for.... an alternate purpose would be for young idle rich to go see the sights, or get away from the family. Just enough room for a good party, but not so big that managing the ship would be a full-time job. They would definitely need to be stylish for that sort.
 
It's different, for sure. Kinda looks like a fighter with a spinal mount. :)

But it is sporty! I'd like to see what you do for a deckplan for it (I dunno if you do deckplans; it's cool if you don't).
I also did a streamlined, jump-2 variety a while ago. It was on the theory that your average low-standing noble, such as a Soc-B Knight, would want something faster that can land on a planet - and with a speeder instead of an air/raft and ATV. I can see if I can dig it up for you if you like.
 
wbnc said:
I imagine a lot of these would also be working yachts. The owners use them for business trips, to entertain guests and clients and travel without having to rely on the scheduled transport lines.
Yep, the Third Imperium's equivalent of a Learjet.
 
Condottiere said:
In terms of scale, the Broadsword would be a Lockheed Hercules, and you work your way down from there.
Yeah, you're on the same line of thought that I am.

The 200 tonner would be what Rust2 said, a Lear jet/gulfstream/727
 
I'll go with the Learjet, though the yacht would actually have a faster manoeuvre drive.

Manoeuvre factor one might be a zeppelin.

Zeppelin would be larger, but that's a very leisurely speed, especially since you still have to cover the distance between transition point and actual destination.
 
Condottiere said:
I'll go with the Learjet, though the yacht would actually have a faster manoeuvre drive.

Manoeuvre factor one might be a zeppelin.

Zeppelin would be larger, but that's a very leisurely speed, especially since you still have to cover the distance between transition point and actual destination.

Thrust one is about the same as a commercial Helicopter, or an osprey. depending n streamlining it could possibly be supersonic if it had time to build up a head of steam.
 
Condottiere said:
Now that the range has opened up to factor nine, not to mention afterburner, one does seem a bit on the slow side.


It is compared when you look at top starship trust factors. Bt 1Gee s not exactly sluggish. It plenty of thrust for maneuvering. and like I said with a bit of ru up space it can hit some pretty high speeds in atmosphere.
 
I love the idea of a jaded noble throwing the keys at the Dockmaster who just slapped a fine on him for parking his yacht in the wrong part of the spaceport. "oh, just keep it, you silly little man. This wasn't even my favourite. I have a dozen just like this one back home. Give it to one of my exes. Or maybe my personal trainer Roberto. I think Roberto's still here. Give him that. Tell him we're now even."
 
alex_greene said:
I love the idea of a jaded noble throwing the keys at the Dockmaster who just slapped a fine on him for parking his yacht in the wrong part of the spaceport. "oh, just keep it, you silly little man. This wasn't even my favourite. I have a dozen just like this one back home. Give it to one of my exes. Or maybe my personal trainer Roberto. I think Roberto's still here. Give him that. Tell him we're now even."

Could be the beginning of a career as a Traveller...the birth of a remittance man.
"Son that yacht cost one hundred twenty EmCee....."

"It was five years old , it was hardly worth having. the new one is much nicer anyway."

"Yes my boy it is...and it has Jump three ..Use it...repeatedly ...soon...and take that collection of reprobate friends of yours with you.."
 
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