USA or UK?

[awesomeshotdude]

maybe it should be a 3 way split poll

America
Rugby playing Nations
the rest that just play proper football.

Sounds good. It would be better if the Rugby was League not Union though :lol: :lol: :lol:

You get bigger and nastier Hits :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Why do we sometimes get so much pleasure in hurting others :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Hacksaw]

And then there was Finland...

But we're used to being dissed and ignored anyways...

Heh, the Russians are only pretending to ignore you. They still get nervous when they see a Finn on skis with a rifle. :twisted:

 

[logan]

OOZZZIE OOZZZIE OOZZIEE!!!

Com'on aussie guys you should know how this one goes, hehe

(i'm an aussie stuck in ireland BTW)

 

[awesomeshotdude]

If you ever get a chance to see Somoa play the All Blacks do it! It's like watching tectonic plates collide :shock: Everyone else on this Earth are just speedbumps to those guys :twisted:

Yeah it can be pretty daunting having a couple of tree trunks thundering your way realising you've gotto drive your shoulder into them.....

 

[awesomeshotdude]

OOZZZIE OOZZZIE OOZZIEE!!!

Com'on aussie guys you should know how this one goes, hehe

(i'm an aussie stuck in ireland BTW)

Oi Oi Oi !!!

Good to see some flag waving from the other side of the planet.

 

[SickBunny]

And then there was Finland...

But we're used to being dissed and ignored anyways...

Heh, the Russians are only pretending to ignore you. They still get nervous when they see a Finn on skis with a rifle. :twisted:

Hey man, dont forget the bicycles...

The cute thing is that we Still make our armygrunts ski and bike... good for stamina and the quietest way to move troops in rough terrain...

 

[Flecha]

Evan though our govement beleives we are..

we are not Europe, and have no wish to be part of it, thats why the goverment wont do a referendum..

Keep Uk independant

Fair enough. Then again, is soooo apropiate for UK not to be Europe but having a big share of the economy, so your goverment can take what they want for you, but give nothing. This days some important European appoinyments are having place, and as always the UK politicians have the power to say where the money goes. And as always, they will give to Spanish politicians the spoils. Despite Spain being part of Europe and UK no. What doesn't explain why UK has the power to decide over Spain budgets.

Do you find it independent enough? Or fair enough?

 

[aurak_merc]

I am here in the USA, but I really like those saucy British and Australian accents the women from those respective countries have . Too bad we don't really have anything to compete (except maybe deep southern drawl and Cajun) for outright "hotness".

It is nice too see that the community is alive in other places like Spain, Germany, and Finland among others.

Best wishes.

 

[Mr Evil]

Evan though our govement beleives we are..

we are not Europe, and have no wish to be part of it, thats why the goverment wont do a referendum..

Keep Uk independant

Fair enough. Then again, is soooo apropiate for UK not to be Europe but having a big share of the economy, so your goverment can take what they want for you, but give nothing. This days some important European appoinyments are having place, and as always the UK politicians have the power to say where the money goes. And as always, they will give to Spanish politicians the spoils. Despite Spain being part of Europe and UK no. What doesn't explain why UK has the power to decide over Spain budgets.

Do you find it independent enough? Or fair enough?

it was worked out that the uk puts in 5 times more than it gets out of the EU, pulling out of the EU for one year would save our hospitals and schools for about 3 years, the EU is a money Vacume for all contries envolved, unfortunatly the sheer scale has been kept hushed up, its not a conspiracy its just the embarisment that the EU has squandered so much money on red tape and failed projects, there was one mad case where the EU spent over 4 million to try and save a tree, the case caried on evan after the tree was hit by lightening and knocked down !!! costing EU an undesclosed amount (probably around another 2-3 million).

most contriesd have now realised that the richer they are the more less benificial the EU is to them, also the poorer countries have found its financialy better for them in theory but it costs more to get them the money than what the money is worth..

Soon as people wake up to the EU being a buracratic money mincing machine the better.

 

[ScipioAmericanus]

Well I had better pipe up for the convicts on the ass end of the world.

We used to be run by the Poms, now we're run by the Yanks.
We've got some island down south called Tassie that constantly claims to be a part of Australia,
and to make matters worse we've got some next door neighbours built like brick you-know-what's whose only claim to national pride is thrashing us at Rugby :roll:

[/end international sledging]

bad luck on the rugby bud, personaly i dont think it was your team so much as a crap coach (but hey getting the push anyway i recon), them New zealanders give a good game though, trouble is they can walk right through some teams..... watched the game of england V NZ how awsome and close was that.. great game and took the wind out of theNZ sails.

maybe it should be a 3 way split poll

America
Rugby playing Nations
the rest that just play proper football.

Hey!!!!

We play Rugby here in the Colonies! West Point had an awesome Rugby team when I was there: I seem to remember we even made a respectable showing against a pro team from England in an exhibition match. Can't remember any more than that since I played the MAN'S version of football, and concentrated on that.

We also play what you call "proper" football (we call it Soccer---for reasons I cannot determine)...we're just not very good at it.

I propose the 3 way split poll go like this:

Nations with great beer
Nations with good beer
Nations that really should concentrate more on brewing beer

Regards!

 

[Neo]

Soon as people wake up to the EU being a buracratic money mincing machine the better.

The EU was good in theory, however it only works by those well off supporting those not, which is good again in principal.

However if you think of the wealth of the likes of the major contributors i.e the UK and Germany as a Full glass of water and all the other members are largely empty glasses... it is impossible for us with our water to raise thier wealth and quality of life upto our level and keep our own at that level as well. All that happens is the water level evens out equally at a much lower level (and therefore wealth and quality of life) for us and a slightly better wealth level and quality of life for them.

hmmm

 

[Greg Smith]

On the subject of the EU:

It is hugely bureacratic because it is huge. The majority of EU money goes to the Common Agricultural Policy which benefits farmers and therefore countries with significant agriculture (such as France, which is therefore vehemently opposed to reform.) The Common Agricultural Policy is a big part of the trade protection problem that keeps the third world poor.

Britain has increased its trade with new members of the EU by over 300% since they joined. Britain has cut its budget rebate in order to fund development of those countries, thereby allowing more trade. Britain may not get money back directly from the EU, but it does benefit from membership - Europe is still Britain's largest export market.

On a more esoteric note, if Europe cannot maintain a mutually beneficial alliance between peoples with common values and beliefs, how is the human race ever going to progress beyond distrust, conflict, and hatred.

 

[Neo]

On the subject of the EU:

It is hugely bureacratic because it is huge. The majority of EU money goes to the Common Agricultural Policy which benefits farmers and therefore countries with significant agriculture (such as France, which is therefore vehemently opposed to reform.) The Common Agricultural Policy is a big part of the trade protection problem that keeps the third world poor.

Britain has increased its trade with new members of the EU by over 300% since they joined. Britain has cut its budget rebate in order to fund development of those countries, thereby allowing more trade. Britain may not get money back directly from the EU, but it does benefit from membership - Europe is still Britain's largest export market.

On a more esoteric note, if Europe cannot maintain a mutually beneficial alliance between peoples with common values and beliefs, how is the human race ever going to progress beyond distrust, conflict, and hatred.

Farmers are the last ones that need MORE money in this country they already recieve MASSIVE government subsidies that noone else in any other needed industry recieves.

As for our relations, there neededn't be commonly shared values or beliefs, it isn't through sharing one view of things that we will survive as a species so much as it will be our ability to accept others the right to thier own beliefs and values..accept the differences as it were. Humanity on all sides needs to just accept that not everyone is the same and can be labelled or placed in one box or the other, indeed it is our individuality that makes us human to begin with.

As for conflict sadly conflict will always be a factor so long as money and the acquisition of wealth remains the fundamental driving force for the civilised world...we currently make generation after generation of greedy materialistic people.. which is not a good way forward as a species.

And Hatred, well hatred is all to often disguised as other things, but largely it is simply peoples inability to accept difference. Difference threatens people and they strike out when others do not fit that individual or individuals notion of what is normal and correct. Dispersing with hatred can only come through people being willing to open themselves to difference in others and accepting it is simply that and not a threat to thier own well being or way of life.

But anyway.. im drifting off topic somewhat here so ill go back to my armchair now

 

[Mr Evil]

Soon as people wake up to the EU being a buracratic money mincing machine the better.

The EU was good in theory, however it only works by those well off supporting those not, which is good again in principal.

However if you think of the wealth of the likes of the major contributors i.e the UK and Germany as a Full glass of water and all the other members are largely empty glasses... it is impossible for us with our water to raise thier wealth and quality of life upto our level and keep our own at that level as well. All that happens is the water level evens out equally at a much lower level (and therefore wealth and quality of life) for us and a slightly better wealth level and quality of life for them.

hmmm

i like your thinking Neo, can i quote this on a political forum im a memeber of please its a very good example in simple format of what people aretrying to say.

 

[Neo]

i like your thinking Neo, can i quote this on a political forum im a memeber of please its a very good example in simple format of what people aretrying to say.

By all means