Trojan Reach: the sci-fi author planets
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Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
mancerbear
Mongoose
Condottiere said:
I'm not seeing how this is helpful...
mancerbear said:
The actress's name is Tricia Hilfer, who played Caprica Six in the reboot of Battlestar Galactica and voiced EDI in Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3.
A more relevant link would be to http://thirdimperiumfanzine.info/issues/Third Imperium - Trojan Reaches.pdf, which is from Back In The Day™ and contains a useful reference point for what the Trojan Reach was once baselined at before Mongoose officially adopted it. Hilfer was once upon a time Herbert, which makes a fair bit more sense. Torpol and Blue remain the same in both renditions, so I'm not sure that there was in fact ever a sci-fi reference buried in either of them.
Though a friend more knowledgeable about the Golden Era of Sci-Fi than I has told me Blue might well be a reference to something from Space Viking.
alex_greene
Guest
And that makes it even less helpful, because they really could have picked the name from a whole long list of female SF authors, such as (Ursula K) LeGuin, (Anne) McCaffrey, (Dorothy C) Fontana, Chesya (Burke), Octavia (Butler), (Andre) Norton, (Connie) Willis, Tanith (Lee), (C J) Cherryh, Melinda (M Snodgrass), (Diane) Duane, (Mercedes) Lackey, (Robin) Hobb, (Sheri S) Tepper, (Pat) Cadigan, and on, and on ...
alex_greene said:
If we're going to apply logic to the situation, one could just as well complain that about how -- in the far future -- only the works of a sliver of the Golden Age of Sci-Fi get a mention, and even then, say, Frank Herbert gets higher billing than, say, Robert Heinlein. To say nothing about later -- but equally influential -- writers, like Douglas Adams. Or folks like Tolkien, who was not a sci-fi author, but who is generally venerated with those who were in the pantheon of speculative fiction's greats.
alex_greene
Guest
Non sequitur. There is no mention of Wells, Gernsback, Verne or Shelley. All the names are based on influential male sf writers, and the only female name referenced is an actress who was hired to be eye candy.Juums said:
Above all, I would dearly have loved to have been in the office where they were deciding the names of these worlds, if only to hear the immortal line "No, I don't care if his, Harlan Ellison's, Ray Bradbury's, Fritz Leiber's, John Wyndham's and Olaf Stapledon's works are the only stories to have survived to this day, you do not get to name any planets after Philip K Dick, do you hear me?"
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Outside of the Sword Worlds, packing the same subsector with systems named after scifi authors is very close to breaking the fourth wall.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
I had that marked for Porn; I'm sure he'd be honoured.
They specialize in manufacturing skintight spacesuits.
They specialize in manufacturing skintight spacesuits.
Also, to be fair, there are quite a few Asimov nods scattered through Pirates of Drinax and Secrets of the Ancients. From the foundation, to the Vorito Gambit's "ye big psychohistorical map of the future", to the "archaeologist-and-consummate-donkey" amongst the interrogators....
ShawnDriscoll
Cosmic Mongoose
phavoc said:
Piper did sort of invent the whole Feudal Technocracy thing that is Traveller. I think he would be pleased.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
The biggest tribute to Piper are the Sword Worlds,and to Pournelle is Book Four.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
There's Heinlein, but all he actually contributes are armoured powered suits.
I was looking forward to seeing Denise Richards bald.
I was looking forward to seeing Denise Richards bald.
steve98052
Mongoose
Several Sword Worlds are named for things that Tolkien invented or popularized:
Anduril • Beater • Biter • Mithril • Narsil • Orcrist • Sting
Seven worlds of tribute to his work might be regarded as a bigger honor than one world bearing his name.
The absence of tributes to women is an unfortunate artifact of Traveller's 1970s origins. At least they recognized the problem when they named the emperors; one could make the case that Arbellatra is the most important after Cleon. But why not name her Ursula?
Anduril • Beater • Biter • Mithril • Narsil • Orcrist • Sting
Seven worlds of tribute to his work might be regarded as a bigger honor than one world bearing his name.
The absence of tributes to women is an unfortunate artifact of Traveller's 1970s origins. At least they recognized the problem when they named the emperors; one could make the case that Arbellatra is the most important after Cleon. But why not name her Ursula?
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
It went with the theme; outside of the mythical ones, Tolkien's blades would have been the ones most commonly known.
In fact, I actually can't remember one from another fantasy series. I'm sure there are a couple from Warhammer I should, besides the Widowmaker.
In fact, I actually can't remember one from another fantasy series. I'm sure there are a couple from Warhammer I should, besides the Widowmaker.
