Stainless said:
nats said:
D&D 4ed seems so easy to play in comparison. But I would prefer to play sci-fi.
Me thinks you jest sir.
The "core 4e rules" (DM Guide, 224 pages; Players Handbook, 320 pages and Monster Manual, 288 pages) seems a tad heavy going compared to the Traveller core rule book. Plus, if memory serves me correctly, one of the contentious issues surrounding 4e was that WotC stated that all supplements were also "core rules". Mongoose Traveller bloat, although it's there, has nothing on D&D bloat.
D&D 3 was to replace the earlier version with quick easy new version that removed many of the complexities and made for a better game.
D&D 3.5 Was the attempt to streamline 3.0 and make it more manageable.
D&D 4.0 Was the entirely new system to wipe away the bag of books that 3.0 and 3.5 became with a new simpler system, easier to play, less complex. This system currently has, what, refs guide, 3 players guides, core rules, several monster manuals, a divine spell expansion, an arcane expansion, a non spell user expansion, two race books. :shock:
D&D 5.0 will replace all of these with a single system, easy to learn and play, capable of emulating any previous version. Light, streamlined.
What could go wrong. :wink:
At least here in the 21st century you can get PDFs to go on a laptop and no longer need to put your back out with 20 or 30 kilos of rule books. Oh wait, didn’t WotC stop PDFs because they were being pirated.
Then there is Pathfinder which I find a better game than 4.0 by a long shot, much better supported as well. I love the idea of the complete campaigns in 6 parts.
Anyway then we have traveller. A core rule book and a number of little rules expansions but generally specific to a theme. High guard for ships, Agents for, well, Agents etc. Much less hassle in terms of refing or playing.
Nothing I hate more than being a ref and having to carry a ton of books with me to cover every possible thing or to deal with players who have one more book than me and start quoting sudden new supper powers, Oh but they forgot to bring their copy along today…………………
I like a good game of Pathfinder, epic high fantasy fun or down and gritty stuff, but at heart I always find my self back at the same rules I started playing so many years ago, sailing the sea of stars, making a (mostly) honest pile of credits and having adventures. 8)