Top 20 Universities in Charted Space?

[WHULorigan]

Of course you might also be in a different subsector that is closer then the other side of the subsector. Also, might take into consideration jump routes when placing institutions of higher learning, if one is say a jump-6 from anywhere else but another is only jump-2 from multiple worlds which is more likely to be utilized?

Yes. There is nothing limiting people to discrete contained subsectors, only that general distance scale.

And travel is not always as easy as getting a liner or trader (or even a packet ship) going your way from your homeworld. You may need to travel to an intermediary world where you can "pick-up" a ship along a travel-route going where you want to go.

 

[Condottiere]

Unless you have a really rich family or patron, it costs a fortune to travel any real distance.

Or, a full scholarship, including expenses.

 

[WHULorigan]

Unless you have a really rich family or patron, it costs a fortune to travel any real distance.

Or, a full scholarship, including expenses.

4 Jumps = Cr 40,000, unless you are going budget at Cr32,000.
And that is just to get to campus.

 

[Condottiere]

It probably costs more to get there, than a four year degree.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Of course you might also be in a different subsector that is closer then the other side of the subsector. Also, might take into consideration jump routes when placing institutions of higher learning, if one is say a jump-6 from anywhere else but another is only jump-2 from multiple worlds which is more likely to be utilized?

Most of the worlds important enough to have a highly prestigious university are likely to already be on a jump route. I would think... Maybe not?

 

[MasterGwydion]

It probably costs more to get there, than a four year degree.

I figure 100k a year for a university like this, minimum.

 

[Condottiere]

Our money, or theirs?

If theirs, that's half a million greenbux per annum.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Our money, or theirs?

If theirs, that's half a million greenbux per annum.

US Dollars. Sorry. I should have been more specific. My bad. I had not done the conversion yet to Credits.

 

[Condottiere]

I suspected that.

On the other hand, you do have to wonder what effect inflation has on college fees, three millenia on.

 

[-Daniel-]

I suspected that.

On the other hand, you do have to wonder what effect inflation has on college fees, three millenia on.

I had the same thought, would they even exist in the form we are used to seeing today? Right now the cost of higher education is out pacing its proven value to the point some areas are questioning its real worth. This could cause many changes.

Sometimes, the demand Traveller always fit the real-world present Earth models drives me crazy. What if most higher education is owned and operated as corporate training for example. You want a higher degree in Chemistry, you get it through an employment agreement with Acme Chemical (a division of Acme Universal). Or maybe there are no large universities at all, maybe because of the distance and cost, there has been a return to the small master program run by a true master. You get your higher education by becoming an apprentice to a group of masters etcetera. Or could some of the higher education be done through machines that force the information into your mind rather than you sitting in a class taking notes? And if so, could those machines be dispersed across space rather than in a single "campus" on a single planet?

Ok, grumpy old man is going to shut up again.

 

[WHULorigan]

I had the same thought, would they even exist in the form we are used to seeing today? Right now the cost of higher education is out pacing its proven value to the point some areas are questioning its real worth. This could cause many changes.

Sometimes, the demand Traveller always fit the real-world present Earth models drives me crazy. What if most higher education is owned and operated as corporate training for example. You want a higher degree in Chemistry, you get it through an employment agreement with Acme Chemical (a division of Acme Universal). . . . .. Or could some of the higher education be done through machines that force the information into your mind rather than you sitting in a class taking notes? And if so, could those machines be dispersed across space rather than in a single "campus" on a single planet?

These are all quite possible. Or maybe things differ depending on both TL and location (e.g. ". . . they do it different in the Core than out here on the Frontier . . ." )

Or maybe there are no large universities at all, maybe because of the distance and cost, there has been a return to the small master program run by a true master. You get your higher education by becoming an apprentice to a group of masters etcetera.

I would think this is something slightly different. More the equivalent of the future "Trade School" or "Guild Apprenticeship" which teaches specified training and skills for a particular trade or trades, as opposed to the College or University which is broader and more formalized/comprehensive book-learning that encompasses a wide range of potential applications and necessary background knowledge for a not necessarily overly specified field (at least until the higher-level degrees, or those degrees which just require a LOT of background knowledge in order to properly pursue).

 

[MasterGwydion]

All I know for certain is that Universities do exist in Charted Space as several have been named. Beyond that I tend to defer to the Cosmopolite book for more details about how they run, even though that isn't specific to Charted Space.

 

[WHULorigan]

All I know for certain is that Universities do exist in Charted Space as several have been named. Beyond that I tend to defer to the Cosmopolite book for more details about how they run, even though that isn't specific to Charted Space.

Oh, they certainly do exist. It is more a matter of figuring out how they operate the same as on modern Earth, and how they operate differently.

 

[Condottiere]

Outside of networking, partying, and the marriage mart, what do you want from your college experience?

And can you obtain that insystem from Chartered Space?

And if knowledge is restricted to vetted students?

At that point, you can have guilds and trade schools.

 

[Arkathan]

I had the same thought, would they even exist in the form we are used to seeing today? Right now the cost of higher education is out pacing its proven value to the point some areas are questioning its real worth. This could cause many changes.

Sometimes, the demand Traveller always fit the real-world present Earth models drives me crazy. What if most higher education is owned and operated as corporate training for example. You want a higher degree in Chemistry, you get it through an employment agreement with Acme Chemical (a division of Acme Universal). Or maybe there are no large universities at all, maybe because of the distance and cost, there has been a return to the small master program run by a true master. You get your higher education by becoming an apprentice to a group of masters etcetera. Or could some of the higher education be done through machines that force the information into your mind rather than you sitting in a class taking notes? And if so, could those machines be dispersed across space rather than in a single "campus" on a single planet?

Ok, grumpy old man is going to shut up again.

The Core Rulebook is proof that Traveller Universities and Colleges do NOT work as they do today.
Graduating from a higher education in Traveller provides you with actual marketable skills and no student debt to saddle the burgeoning character. Someone in the far future told the educators to educate, and not to scam students for fun, cultural influence and profit.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Outside of networking, partying, and the marriage mart, what do you want from your college experience?

And can you obtain that insystem from Chartered Space?

And if knowledge is restricted to vetted students?

At that point, you can have guilds and trade schools.

I am more thinking along Prestigious Universities. So, of course you can get that education elsewhere, just as you can get your law degree from somewhere other than Harvard, if you have seen the TV show Suits, some companies only hire from Harvard. In England if you didn't go to Eton, then you are automatically "lesser" socially. etc...

 

[Condottiere]

You probably still need to be licensed planetarily, or regionally.

You could have lawyers that specialize in Imperium law, maybe Emperor's Counsels, that would require graduating from a recognized university.

But, these nuances don't pop up during character creation.

 

[Geir]

Just remember, the way to get tenure in a Vilani university is to come up with an elaborate proof to confirm something people already figured out 10,000 years earlier. Just saying. Relevant, no. Probably just a little punchy and prone to stream of consciousness remarks today. Storm bomb thingee kept me up all night - I work for a power utility in western Washington.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Just remember, the way to get tenure in a Vilani university is to come up with an elaborate proof to confirm something people already figured out 10,000 years earlier. Just saying. Relevant, no. Probably just a little punchy and prone to stream of consciousness remarks today. Storm bomb thingee kept me up all night - I work for a power utility in western Washington.

Did you make it through the storm okay?

 

[Geir]

Did you make it through the storm okay?

My power survived... our outage map was flaking, though... and that was the issue (gee, when a bunch of people want to look at the outage map, and a bunch of updates are hitting it, it doesn't work well... who could have anticipated that*)

*large sarcasm bomb implied.