Tiny cabins for Traveller

alex_greene said:
Also, they wanted to make sure Traveller characters stayed awake during Jump to do things such as make friends, Allies and Contacts, prevent hijacking attempts or actually attempt hijackings themselves.

Nothing's less fun than saying to the Travellers that they enter a cubby, Fast Drug is sprayed in their faces, and they wake up a few hours later with a new world waiting for them in the common room viewport. Where's the adventure?
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Are you familiar with the TV series Earth 2?

The pilot episode should be of special interest... they required calcium or was that bone supplements to help maintain their bodies the pilot of that transport didn't expect to end up grounded and was incapacitated for a while and even HE underwent what sounded like this!

Just a thought.
 
Hopeless said:
Are you familiar with the TV series Earth 2?

The pilot episode should be of special interest... they required calcium or was that bone supplements to help maintain their bodies the pilot of that transport didn't expect to end up grounded and was incapacitated for a while and even HE underwent what sounded like this!
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Not really sure just what he went through, but yeah he had a hard time at the start of things within the gravity of the planet.
 
I explored the fast drug as a low-berth substitute a while back, and as I recall, the passengers would be placed on one of those long term invalid beds with an automatic massage function.

Three high per one tonne seemed fine.
 
Low is obvious for price for economic minded and is more available, both technology and law level wise. Mid passage gets you the basic in both accommodations and service while High passage will have your stateroom equipped with better entertainment, better foods and MUCH better service fron the stewards.
 
Cattle class used to be to make up the numbers, the flight being paid for by business and first.

Obviously, some rpg group could wargame various business models for Spaceline Tycoon (TM), and discover how to make interstellar passenger service pay.
 
Rikki Tikki Traveller said:
Why would you even have to have High/Middle and Low - wouldn't they really all be the same?
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For the same reason you can buy an economy seat on a A380 for like $500, or you can buy yourself a room for $25,000. Or a Ford Fiesta for $15k vs. a Rolls Royce Phantom for $500k. People with money find ways to spend it on things the rest of us see as overly extravagant.

But you are right, you shouldn't be able to pay Middle passage fares for a High passage cabin - the cost includes (normally) a very swanky room compared to Middle passage. Or at least should if it follows the logic for shipboard cabins or even air line seats for that matter. First class seats are a lot more comfortable than coach.

The kicker for all this is that the game economics don't factor in things like sales, load factors, upgrades, or last-minute discounts for fares to sell a room. The High/Middle passage kinda takes that into consideration (with the idea that you could get bumped at the last minute by a high passenger if you were travelling as a middle), but it's relatively limited. It's probably best left to a ref or someone to come up with a nice set of house rules to share.
 
But the difference there is that on the A380, you are awake for the entire flight (theoretically). If the actual travel model is to put everyone to sleep after boarding, then that difference becomes minimal; thus the costs should be much closer if not the same.
 
HAN
Han Solo. I'm captain of the
Millennium Falcon. Chewie here tells
me you're looking for passage to the
Alderaan system.

BEN
Yes, indeed. If it's a fast ship.

HAN
Fast ship? You've never heard of the
Millennium Falcon?

BEN
Should I have?

HAN
It's the ship that made the Kessel
run in less than twelve parsecs!

Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with
obvious misinformation.

HAN
I've outrun Imperial starships, not
the local bulk-cruisers, mind you.
I'm talking about the big Corellian
ships now. She's fast enough for
you, old man. What's the cargo?

BEN
Only passengers. Myself, the boy,
two droids, and no questions asked.

HAN
What is it? Some kind of local
trouble?

BEN
Let's just say we'd like to avoid
any Imperial entanglements.

HAN
Well, that's the trick, isn't it?
And it's going to cost you something
extra. Ten thousand in advance.

LUKE
Ten thousand? We could almost buy
our own ship for that!

HAN
But who's going to fly it, kid! You?

LUKE
You bet I could. I'm not such a bad
pilot myself! We don't have to sit
here and listen...

BEN
We haven't that much with us. But we
could pay you two thousand now, plus
fifteen when we reach Alderaan.

HAN
Seventeen, huh!

Han ponders this for a few moments.

HAN
Okay. You guys got yourself a ship.
We'll leave as soon as you're ready.
Docking bay Ninety-four.

BEN
Ninety-four.
 
Rikki Tikki Traveller said:
But the difference there is that on the A380, you are awake for the entire flight (theoretically). If the actual travel model is to put everyone to sleep after boarding, then that difference becomes minimal; thus the costs should be much closer if not the same.
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Most aren't. That's why the the seats lay flat and you get that really nice bed in the cabin. Suckers in coach gotta learn to sleep sitting more or less sitting up.

Putting some passengers to sleep with say some sort of somatic device rather than drugs (like in the Fifth Element) might work. Would make the trip appear to be faster, and would certainly allow for more packed craft. Kind of like the stacking of passengers design that Airbus recently submitted to be patented. I really don't want someone sitting/reclining above me without a floor being there, but that's what they are looking at doing.

Air travel - just as crappy in space since 2015AD. Hey, that could be a corporate spaceline tagline for advertising!
 
phavoc said:
Air travel - just as crappy in space since 2015AD. Hey, that could be a corporate spaceline tagline for advertising!
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:lol:

I believe this will be more reality than fiction. :mrgreen:
 
Condottiere said:
You guys are flying the wrong airlines.
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Unfortunately even when I'm flying the "right" one I gotta fly economy. Longest trip I did was Dallas > St. Louis > Charleston > Mildenhall AFB > Frankfurt... all in economy. It was a nice roomy 747, but sadly the seats never got any bigger and the drink service was downright non-medicinal!

-Daniel- has it right about affording things. :)
 
Or airliners.

I haven't been on a 787, but the 380 has more than enough space. I found I can tolerate a commuter flight for one and a half hours.

Ever since I discovered what sardines experience in can, on a trans-Atlantic flight, I've been rather careful.
 
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