apastuszak
Cosmic Mongoose
So we could get rid of New Jersey? You're not selling me on stopping the flow of fentanyl… KIDDING!!!! My wife is from New Jersey and my couch is not comfortable. So, of course, I'm kidding!
Tariffs and You (Mongoose edition)
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So we could get rid of New Jersey? You're not selling me on stopping the flow of fentanyl… KIDDING!!!! My wife is from New Jersey and my couch is not comfortable. So, of course, I'm kidding!
Arkathan
Emperor Mongoose
I just took the state with the closest population to the lethal dose breakdown. Wasn't targeting them either.
CordwainerFish
Emperor Mongoose
Friend of mine is from South Joisey and she says it's a nice place.
apastuszak
Cosmic Mongoose
Of course, the ultimate solution is to legalize recreational drug use. But that will probably never happen because it's just so blatantly obvious.
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
The only reason that the Italian Mob got so powerful was because of Prohibition. The only reason drug cartels became so powerful is because of the "war on drugs". We literally created our own worst enemies. If all drugs are legalized, then it becomes a public health issue with treatment for those with addiction. Prison never got anyone clean on its own. Speaking as a recovering heroin addict who has been clean for over 10 years. It took treatment to help Me stop using, not prison. The problem is as a society, We don't want treatment, We want punishment.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Actually, we want to distract the underclass, and by not legalizing it, retain the threat of enforcement.
apastuszak
Cosmic Mongoose
I think almost every country that has legalized drug use has seen a marked decrease in recreation drug use and addiction.
actionman
Emperor Mongoose
And that song reminds me of this classic:
Or until they realize that strength never lasts, and that there is always someone stronger than they are.
It was by design. The CIA used the drug trade to fund Operation Gladio starting in the late 40's, and their other dirty wars in the following decades. Funny how the government will chase someone to the ends of the earth if his taxes are off but it somehow can't do much about drugs flooding the country through a border it just can't seem to close.
That is a great accomplishment. I sincerely congratulate you.
I really don't think so. I think there will be a difficult period of adjustment, due to very powerful, very dangerous people around the world doing everything they can to stop the changes the current US administration is making, but after they are dealt with, things will improve rapidly. War-type violence is possible, but it won't be a civil war, it will be the elites using the forces they directly control (terrorist armies, criminal organizations, rogue agencies) to commit false flag operations to turn people against each other (with the mainstream media hyping it of course). I don't think tariffs are a big deal, because other countries have had high tariffs for decades and they're doing fine. Tariffs can be easily negotiated until a good balance is reached.
I think that aspect of the 3I deserves much more attention, because the intrigue and corruption it fuels is a very rich source of adventure.
Source?
dragon3r
Banded Mongoose
Doesn't play though looks like Dead Kennedys Holiday In Cambodia? I have that single also, from buying records back in the day.
TLDR: Tariffs = Bad. I don't think anyone wants to read a lecture on macro economics, it is a complex subject, such as when I was in business school, first day in macroecon a young woman besides me opened the text, and said "it's full of math." To which I replied "yeah, it has it's own math like physics." She looked frightened at that, said she hadn't had physics. Economic systems are formed to support power structures, such as the Bretton Woods system created in 1944, from where modern economics derives. I don't put stock in conspiracy theories, though I suppose people use them to try to find order, similar to Theseus in the labyrinth. Nature has no concern for order, and works through chaos just fine. Dovetails with a favorite quote from Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy:
“The truth about the world, he said, is that anything is possible. Had you not seen it all from birth and thereby bled it of its strangeness it would appear to you for what it is, a hat trick in a medicine show, a fevered dream, a trance bepopulate with chimeras having neither analogue nor precedent, an itinerant carnival, a migratory tentshow whose ultimate destination after many a pitch in many a mudded field is unspeakable and calamitous beyond reckoning.
The universe is no narrow thing and the order within it is not constrained by any latitude in its conception to repeat what exists in one part in any other part. Even in this world more things exist without our knowledge than with it and the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way. For existence has its own order and that no man's mind can compass, that mind itself being but a fact among others.”
I think people prefer a "clean 3I" now; though by the original description, in the old days I had used a byzantine flavor: corrupt, decadent, and mysterious from the Vilani influence. The Marches were a gritty frontier.
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dragon3r
Banded Mongoose
Tariffs are good for protecting an emerging manufacturing sector, in particular for strategic purposes. Tariffs can't fix a mature corporation that has bad management, and makes poor decisions; those companies are likely to go under no matter what. Though the context is about the UK, and gaming materials, tariffs in that situation are bad. TBH I don't think we should have any controls over what they do anyways, they want to come over here, fine. Instead, the UK Subs were just deported, why? Just silly.
Arkathan
Emperor Mongoose
Your link says denied entry, not deported. Not signing up to read the rest of it, and it apparently isn't news elsewhere.
Europe and Canada are hardly emerging sectors.
As to gaming, the tariff in question was placed by another country on material leaving this one.
The response of "but they imposed tariffs" ignores the high tariffs already in place for decades. Kind of disingenuous.
Curtailing the drug factories set up in recent years due to unrestricted illegal movements of gangs and cartels, and reducing existing tariffs is the sensible solution, when reciprocal tariffs are a thing. Then there would be no, or minimal tariffs.
But of course, the country that has been subjected to tariffs for years is to blame when those same... considerations... are returned.
In an environment of reciprocal tariffs, it is incumbent for others to address the beam in their eyes before complaining about the mote in ours.
None of that is the fault of Mongoose, and of they must do their best to keep material flowing at the optimal cost to themselves and the customer.
Europe and Canada are hardly emerging sectors.
As to gaming, the tariff in question was placed by another country on material leaving this one.
The response of "but they imposed tariffs" ignores the high tariffs already in place for decades. Kind of disingenuous.
Curtailing the drug factories set up in recent years due to unrestricted illegal movements of gangs and cartels, and reducing existing tariffs is the sensible solution, when reciprocal tariffs are a thing. Then there would be no, or minimal tariffs.
But of course, the country that has been subjected to tariffs for years is to blame when those same... considerations... are returned.
In an environment of reciprocal tariffs, it is incumbent for others to address the beam in their eyes before complaining about the mote in ours.
None of that is the fault of Mongoose, and of they must do their best to keep material flowing at the optimal cost to themselves and the customer.
dragon3r
Banded Mongoose
UK isn't in the EU. Mongoose books that I have recieved here are from Studio 2 in Tennessee also. Enacting tariffs of any sort against them likely would cost more than any revenue generated. Nor is there any issue with gangs or cartels from the UK. Anyone from there, tourists, musical groups, etc. are a net positve for us, generating revenue here.
Drug gangs, criminals should be stopped, though tariffs won't do that, following the money and making it unprofitable for them is the way to do that. Different topic though.
Drug gangs, criminals should be stopped, though tariffs won't do that, following the money and making it unprofitable for them is the way to do that. Different topic though.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Economics is a belief system.
Arkathan
Emperor Mongoose
You might want to go back to the beginning and reread the initial posts, so that you have the same frame of context I am working from.
dragon3r
Banded Mongoose
Economics is politics by other means. To paraphrase Clausewitz.
I've skimmed it. All roads lead back to China, just to cut to the chase. They have created an economic "nuclear option" against us by hoarding our currency and buying treasury bonds, that our government is afraid of. It is something we are going to have to deal with, and a tariff is too little, too late. We should be active in trying to help the UK through their difficulties, not some Smoot-Hawley tariff thing which put the nail in the coffin of the world economy last time. The day is coming, to quote Sun Tzu: "On death ground, fight." I have no doubt where the UK will stand that day, and it is in our interests to see a strong UK, for when that day comes.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember’d;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.
It is a poor person that puts privilege above their principles, all the wealth of the world can't claw that back.
dragon3r
Banded Mongoose
Each tariff should be examined to see if it is a net benefit to us. UK trades fairly, and I see no reason as to create barriers to trade. They are not pegging their currency lower to ours, like with the Renminbi, nor buying our technology, undercutting our manufacturing, to use against us.
