Supplement 10: Merchants and Cruisers

[IanBruntlett]

According to the Mg website, Merchants and Cruisers is both hardback and softback. Of the two, which is it?

Further details:-
http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/home/detail.php?qsID=1975&qsSeries=

 

[DFW]

"Every ship in this hardback book is individually illustrated and presented with a vector-format deck plan."

Really? How do you have any kind of computer formatting when it is ink on a page? :lol:

 

[AndrewW]

"Every ship in this hardback book is individually illustrated and presented with a vector-format deck plan."

Really? How do you have any kind of computer formatting when it is ink on a page? :lol:

Well, could have started out that way. The PDF may use vector images.

Though I did notice that myself when originally reading the description.

 

[DFW]

The PDF may use vector images.

Though I did notice that myself when originally reading the description.

It isn't out in PDF.

 

[Stainless]

"Every ship in this hardback book is individually illustrated and presented with a vector-format deck plan."

People have been asking for this since the core rulebook was released. If it's what I think it is and they have finally brought themselves into the 21st century of publishing, I for one, will buy the book if only as a vote in favour of this 'innovation'.

Would love to see a preview to assess the quality.

 

[lastbesthope]

Given the price, I'd guess it's a softback

LBH

 

[AndrewW]

The PDF may use vector images.

Though I did notice that myself when originally reading the description.

It isn't out in PDF.

Nope, but it's not out in printed form either. Just saying if they happen to release it in PDF that might use vector format.

 

[AndrewW]

People have been asking for this since the core rulebook was released. If it's what I think it is and they have finally brought themselves into the 21st century of publishing, I for one, will buy the book if only as a vote in favour of this 'innovation'.

It probably is, depending on what you think it is. Vector images unlike bitmaps can be rescaled without loss of quality.

 

[Jame Rowe]

I hope that this book has some designs between 3000 and 10000 tons, and some between 10000 tons and 20000 tons.

 

[zero]

Those are some pretty huge and varied ship plans...

 

[AndrewW]

I hope that this book has some designs between 3000 and 10000 tons, and some between 10000 tons and 20000 tons.

One between 3,000 and 10,000 tons is a possibility. But don't know what they are including in it.

 

[phavoc]

I too am hoping to see some larger cargo ships. The ones they have released so far are just too small to move cargo economically between planets.

I'm not talking a few crates of oranges that a Free Trader might move... I'm talking large bulk cargos, hundreds of vehicles, specialized high-tech machinery that is sold as export from TL-15 worlds, even massive fusion reactors designed to power cities. The current crop of freighters just can't cut it.

 

[AndrewW]

I too am hoping to see some larger cargo ships. The ones they have released so far are just too small to move cargo economically between planets.

I'm not talking a few crates of oranges that a Free Trader might move... I'm talking large bulk cargos, hundreds of vehicles, specialized high-tech machinery that is sold as export from TL-15 worlds, even massive fusion reactors designed to power cities. The current crop of freighters just can't cut it.

There's the superfreighter in High Guard. Don't know if there will be any in the new book or not.

Or the 6,000 ton hauler from Reign of Discordia. This was available in the PDF download of the ships for that setting.

 

[DFW]

Giant cargo ships are simple to envision as long as you realize; Form follows function.

They won't be landing on a world so they can be just large, rectangular boxes.

All drives, bridge and quarters in the rear and the whole forward area as hold. Look at modern super-container ships.

 

[phavoc]

I too am hoping to see some larger cargo ships. The ones they have released so far are just too small to move cargo economically between planets.

I'm not talking a few crates of oranges that a Free Trader might move... I'm talking large bulk cargos, hundreds of vehicles, specialized high-tech machinery that is sold as export from TL-15 worlds, even massive fusion reactors designed to power cities. The current crop of freighters just can't cut it.

There's the superfreighter in High Guard. Don't know if there will be any in the new book or not.

Or the 6,000 ton hauler from Reign of Discordia. This was available in the PDF download of the ships for that setting.

Yep, I recall that one. I'm looking to see the range of ships that should be appearing between the 2,000 tonner and the 100,000 ton range.

Where are the massive passengerliners that would be equivalent to the ships of the 1900s that raced across the Atlantic between the US and Europe? With a world population in the billions, and connect a few of those planets together in a route, we should see huge numbers of traffic.

 

[Jame Rowe]

I hope that this book has some designs between 3000 and 10000 tons, and some between 10000 tons and 20000 tons.

One between 3,000 and 10,000 tons is a possibility. But don't know what they are including in it.

I would want a bunch of them. There's far too many that are over 30,000 tons for the number that are between 3000 and 20000 tons.

 

[AndrewW]

I would want a bunch of them. There's far too many that are over 30,000 tons for the number that are between 3000 and 20000 tons.

Might be more, though I doubt it will be a whole lot.

 

[MongooseMatt]

Apologies for the hard/softback confusion - it was going to be a hardback, but we didn't get quite as many ships as we needed and, rather than delay the book, we decided to go with softback.

BTW, this book is at print now and its return is imminent!

 

[DFW]

it was going to be a hardback, but we didn't get quite as many ships as we needed and, rather than delay the book, we decided to go with softback.

Next time just ask the community and I'm sure you'll get enough submissions to fill 2 books just for a credit line in the book.

 

[atpollard]

With respect to the proposed Superfreighters, I would imagine them to be a very boring deckplan - especially 'lots of them'. The small non-cargo area would be almost identical for the 10 kiloton and up sizes with the main difference being the size of the big, empty cargo hold.

Would anyone really want a book of 10 giant, nearly identical dekplans that are mostly open, empty cargo hold, fuel and drives?