Squadron Sets

Asguard101

Mongoose
Do the Gorn not have a Squadron set?

Also I noticed that the Romulans and Klingons have two different Squadron Sets, will the other Races get 2 Squadron Set, as well?
 
Asguard101 said:
where can one see this release schedule?

front page of mongoose and there's picture with text "release schedelude". Just press it :)

Took me awhile to find too. All too easily spotted to be easily found ;)
 
In case anyone is curious about the contents of the forthcoming Squadron boxes, check HERE!

I spoke to Steve and Leanna today about the difficulties the ACTA players who are unfamilar with Fed Comm releases were having finding the info about the different Squadron boxes and they set-up a separate section of thier web storefront listing just the Squadron boxes and contents.

There are three things to remember about these boxes:
1) They were designed to match the way the ships / counters were released in Federation Commander, not ACTA, so the contents may seem a bit strange to one who's trying to build a fleet for ACTA: SF; as may the order in which they are being released for ACTA.
2) The info probably says Starline 2400 in the description, but the Starline 2500 squadron boxes will match the contents ofthe Starline 2400 boxes.
3) The decision to match contents was made to prevent havign an entirely new set of SKU numbers for vendors, distributers, and merchants to deal with. They dislike extended ranges of SKUs to track.
 
scoutdad said:
1) They were designed to match the way the ships / counters were released in Federation Commander, not ACTA, so the contents may seem a bit strange to one who's trying to build a fleet for ACTA: SF; as may the order in which they are being released for ACTA.

Not strange, anti miniature gamer. They use the logic of a collector vice a wargamer by assuming that you will need to own one of everything in the set instead of the reality that you will want to buy ships based on their being usable. It makes perfect sense with SFB and FC, they were boardgames first with mini's being just a add on for color. Mini's were just extra and 90% of the people I know who still play it (SFB/FC) don't use mini's anyway.

But for a pure miniatures game it will actually drive away people. Miniature gamers don't just buy figure willy nilly on the off chance they may use them someday. Mini's cost money. And at $15 a crack, the 2500's are not cheap. The way things stand you can only buy one Fleet and one Squadron box. After that you will be stuck with 'useless' extras you can't get rid of. Each $15 dollar dreadnought gathering dust on the shelf is $15 dollars ripped off out of my wallet that I could have spent on a figure I actually need. Just how many Dreadnoughts do you need? One, maybe two.

The marketing logic is basically like this, imagine buying tires for the car.
You can buy 4 15" tires plus 1 16" tire as a set for $400 or you can buy 4 individual 15" tires for $500. What a bargain, except for the stack of 16" tires I can't use or get rid of.

Oh well, it looks like deja vue all over again. Got people interested in FC, but they didn't like the game unless there were mini's. Then they discovered the weird packaging and mini count, sqd boxes that were not sqd's, etc. And they all dropped out to play WH and Warmachine.

I hope the Fleet Boxes will somehow over shadow the Sqd Box content. But I have a feeling I will be the only one owning fleets yet again :cry:
 
I think the Starline 2500 version of the FedCom squadron boxes is a neat idea, but I do not like the idea of being stuck with extra dreadnoughts. If I buy a Fed Fleet box I'll already have a DN and two BCHs, but if I want to pick up some NCLs, NCAs, and DWs, the squadron box with those has another BCH and a DN... I'd rather it be another DW and NCL, honestly. :?

The best squadron box currently listed, IMO, is the Klingon vs Orion one. Two Klingon cruisers and a frigate and two Orion light raiders and a salvage cruiser. No heavies, just frigates and cruisers, very nice.
 
I posted a suggestion for a reinforcements squadron that ditched the DN and BC from each fleet in favour of three more light ships, so Klingons would be D7, D6, 2 F5, 2 E4. If you go onto the next page you can find the thread, it got a mixed response.
 
SVC asked me to post this. These are the contents of the Squadron Boxes.

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Squadron Box #1
Federation Frigate, Light Cruiser, Dreadnought, Heavy Cruiser, and Battlecruiser.
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Squadron Box #2
Klingon C8 dreadnought, D6 heavy cruiser (identical to D7),
D7 battlecruiser, C7 heavy battlecruiser,
F5 frigate.
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Squadron Box #3
Tholian patrol corvette;
Orion Raider (CR);
Generic large freighter
Generic small freighter;
Generic battlestation.
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Squadron Box #4
Federation BCH (0233), (The feds have 3 half-sister BCHs which use the same mini)
two Generic Free Traders (0109-1),
Fed Police Ship (0212), Tholian Destroyer (0704-1), Kzinti NCA (562).
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Squadron Box #5
Klingon D5W Heavy Cruiser (0389)
E4 Light Frigate (0364-2)
D5 War Cruiser (0323-1)
Orion Salvage Cruiser
2 Orion Light Raiders (LRs)
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Squadron Box #6
Includes Kzinti DN (0542), BCH (0543), CL (0510-1), CM (0519), and DW (0544-1).
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Squadron Box #7
Federation New Heavy Cruiser. Dreadnought.
New Light Cruiser. Battlecruiser. War Destroyer.
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Squadron Box #8
Gorn dreadnought. battlecruiser. destroyer.
Generic Mobile Base.
Generic Armed Priority Transport.
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Squadron Box #9
Romulan ships
Condor Dreadnought,
SkyHawk destroyer,
BattleHawk old destroyer,
Klingon-built Kestral KR (same as D7),
the classic War Eagle.
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Squadron Box #10
Romulan heavy freighter (four pods)
Gorn CL.
Federation battle frigate,
Romulan Snipe
Federation Strike Cruiser
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Squadron Box #11
Gorn Heavy Battlecruiser,
Medium Cruiser, Strike Cruiser
Heavy Destroyer, Battle Destroyer.
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Squadron Box #12
Romulan FireHawk Heavy Cruiser,
SparrowHawk Light Cruiser,
King Eagle,
KF5R Destroyer (same as Klingon F5)
KC9R Dreadnought (Same as Klingon C8 and C9)
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Squadron Box #13
Seltorian DN, BCH, CA, CL, DD, FF.
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Squadron Box #14
Neo-Tholian Dreadnought, Heavy Cruiser, Light Cruiser, Destroyer, and Frigate.
Note that Neo-Tholians and Tholians are not the same
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Squadron Box #15
Tholian two heavy cruisers
Tholian Dreadnought,
Tholian War cruiser.
Generic Base Station
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Squadron Box #16
Federation Light & Heavy Dreadnoughts.
Neo-Tholian Heavy Dreadnought. (just has an extra piece from the NDN)
Kzinti Light Dreadnought
Kzinti heavy Dreadnought (same as DN, I think)
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Squadron Box #17
Hydran heavy Dreadnought (same as Paladin)
Hydran Light Dreadnought .
Klingon C5 Light Dreadnought.
Lyran Light Dreadnought
Lyran heavy Dreadnought.(same as DN, I think)
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Squadron Box #18
Romulan Condor & Shrike Dreadnoughts .
Romulan KC9R Dreadnought. Klingon C9
Gorn Light Dreadnought & Dreadnought.
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Squadron Box #19
Lyran: Heavy Battlecruiser (same mini for battlecruiser),
Lyran Heavy Cruiser, Dreadnought, Destroyer, Frigate.
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Squadron Box #20
Hydran Paladin Dreadnought,
Dragoon Heavy Cruiser (Identical to Ranger)
Overlord Heavy Battlecruiser,
Knight Destroyer (identical to knight)
Cuirassier Frigate (identical to hunter)
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Squadron Box #21
WYN War Cruiser, WYN Auxiliary Battlecruiser, WYN War Destroyer,
Lyran Jaguar War Cruiser, Hydran Mongol War Cruiser.
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Squadron Box #22
Orion Battle Raider, Orion War Destroyer,
Lyran Military Police ship (same as Lyran DW),
Hydran Gendarme
Large Q-ship (same as Large Freighter).
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Squadron Box #23
Orion Battlecruiser,
Orion Double Raider
, Gorn Police Ship (same as Gorn DD),
Romulan SeaHawk,
Generic Small Q-ship (same as Small Freighter).
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Squadron Box #24
Orion Free Traitor (same as Generic Free Trader),
Orion Slaver
Orion Heavy Battlecruiser (same as Orion not-heavy Battlecruiser),
Generic Commercial Platform
Generic Planetary Defense Monitor.
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Squadron Box #25
Lyran (NCA, CL, DW)
Klingon F5W
WYN Barracuda Frigate.
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Squadron Box #26
Hydran Ranger heavy cruiser (same as Dragoon)
Tartar war cruiser (same as Mongol)
Iroquois new heavy cruiser (same as Mohawk)
two war destroyers (Rhino Hunter and Buffalo Hunter, which are identical miniatures).
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Squadron Box #27
Hydran Pegasus light cruiser.
Hydran Lancer destroyer (same as knight)
Hydran Hunter Frigate,
WYN Auxiliary Cruiser
Kzinti FFK Frigate.
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Squadron Box #28
Vudar: Dreadnought, Heavy Cruiser, War Cruiser (which is also the light cruiser),
War Destroyer (which is also the destroyer),
War Frigate (which is also the frigate and the police cutter).
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Squadron Box #29
ISC dreadnought, heavy cruiser, light cruiser, destroyer, and frigate.
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Squadron Box #30
Andromedan Intruder , Conquistador , Python , and four Cobra .
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Jean
 
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