Species (Races) in MgT 2e
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mavikfelna
Cosmic Mongoose
I added the Behind the Claw reference for the Jonkeereen.
After reading through the Foelen entries in Behind the Claw, I actually think I need to move the Foelen Dolphin into the Alien species section instead of the Chokari to the Uplifted Species section. They are more akin to Vargr than to the uplifted Solomani species.
What does everyone think on this? The other option of course is to move Chokari and Vargr to Terran Uplift Species but in a special category that is separate, since they were Ancient uplifts compared to Human uplifts.
Are there any other Ancient uplifted earth species that are identified as Alien Species?
After reading through the Foelen entries in Behind the Claw, I actually think I need to move the Foelen Dolphin into the Alien species section instead of the Chokari to the Uplifted Species section. They are more akin to Vargr than to the uplifted Solomani species.
What does everyone think on this? The other option of course is to move Chokari and Vargr to Terran Uplift Species but in a special category that is separate, since they were Ancient uplifts compared to Human uplifts.
Are there any other Ancient uplifted earth species that are identified as Alien Species?
Tom B
Cosmic Mongoose
There are three main categories of genetically modified species from Earth.
1) By the ancients, Vargr, Chokari, one group of dolphins, Genoee and many more human variations.
2) By the Vilnani, the Jonkeereen are the only example I know of.
3) By the Solomani, bears, apes, orca, more dolphins.
There might be a possible fourth category, humans that have evolved naturally from base humans on other worlds.
Other things to consider
a) in Behind the Claw there is a note that not only have bottlenosed dolphins been uplifted, the pacific whiteside dolphin has as well.
b) Aliens of Charted Space 1, lists different subspecies of Vargr. It doesn't go into much detail, but I remember one is blind and very psionic.
c) Some races of humans taken by the ancients were not from Homo sapiens but from neanderthals or other species or subspecies. Example the Suerrat (I think).
I had started something similar and put it into a spreadsheet, that way you can have as many layers of subcategories as you like.
1) By the ancients, Vargr, Chokari, one group of dolphins, Genoee and many more human variations.
2) By the Vilnani, the Jonkeereen are the only example I know of.
3) By the Solomani, bears, apes, orca, more dolphins.
There might be a possible fourth category, humans that have evolved naturally from base humans on other worlds.
Other things to consider
a) in Behind the Claw there is a note that not only have bottlenosed dolphins been uplifted, the pacific whiteside dolphin has as well.
b) Aliens of Charted Space 1, lists different subspecies of Vargr. It doesn't go into much detail, but I remember one is blind and very psionic.
c) Some races of humans taken by the ancients were not from Homo sapiens but from neanderthals or other species or subspecies. Example the Suerrat (I think).
I had started something similar and put it into a spreadsheet, that way you can have as many layers of subcategories as you like.
mavikfelna
Cosmic Mongoose
I have posted a master document for character creation that includes this information. It is in the following thread:
Character Creation Master Document Thread
Character Creation Master Document Thread
mavikfelna
Cosmic Mongoose
I'd love to see your spreadsheet if you'd like to share it.
For now, I'm keeping it simple and going with
1. Humaniti (Human based species and social groupings that includes genemodded humans, ancient modded and uplifted humans, and ancient transported humans that evolved on thier own. This includes all the subtypes like Neanderthal and other proto hominids.)
2. Terran Uplift species (Those species uplifted by terran humans, so Apes, Caprisaps, Dolphins, Orca and Ursa.)
3. Ancient Modified Non-Human species (the Foelen races and Vargr so far.)
4. Non-Terran Alien species
5. Non-playable Non-Terran Alien species
Tom B
Cosmic Mongoose
I'll update it first!
Tom B
Cosmic Mongoose
Updated - DM me and I'll send it to you.
In one of the recent JTAS - there's a human race that was manipulated by the Hivers
mavikfelna
Cosmic Mongoose
Is this the Weregre? Thanks for pointing them out. I'll add them.
AndrewW
Emperor Mongoose
That is human propaganda, the Hivers don't manipulate they just get you to see the truth.
PeterDebney
Banded Mongoose
There are also the Esseray, the Non-playable Non-Terran Alien species from The Fall of Tinath adventure.
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
Just out of curiosity, are there any Hiver or K'kree uplifted species?
FreeTrav
Cosmic Mongoose
I'm not aware of any that have been specifically stated to have been uplifted, but given the published information, one might reasonably wonder about the Ithklur.
Sigtrygg
Emperor Mongoose
"When contact between Hivers and lthklur occurred in -3986, the lthklur had already developed in-system spaceflight, and represented
the most advanced intelligence the Hivers had encountered in their 600 years of interstellar exploration. United under a single government, the lthklur had advanced to TL 8 or 9, and were in the process of colonizing the Eethk*klaa system when the first Hiver ships attempted to establish trade."
So not uplifted.
the most advanced intelligence the Hivers had encountered in their 600 years of interstellar exploration. United under a single government, the lthklur had advanced to TL 8 or 9, and were in the process of colonizing the Eethk*klaa system when the first Hiver ships attempted to establish trade."
So not uplifted.
mavikfelna
Cosmic Mongoose
Can you get me any information about this? I can't find that adventure on Mongoose's site. Web says it's in the Starter Box but what starter box?
AndrewW
Emperor Mongoose
MGP 40008
ISBN 978-1-908460-60-8
The Traveller Starter set contains:
Book 1: Characters and Combat
Book 2: Spacecraft and Worlds
Book 3: The Fall of Tinath
Giant Two-sided SEctor Map
6 Pre-generated Character Cards
2 Six-sided Dice
It is separately available on DriveTruRPG (and probably from Mongoose?) https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/210689/the-fall-of-tinath
mavikfelna
Cosmic Mongoose
Updated the original post.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
The Hivers uplifted humanity, but we don't know it.
Fluffy Bunny Feet
Emperor Mongoose
But they regret it.The Hivers uplifted humanity, but we don't know it.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
So say we all.
