Solomoni Rim Anybody?
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Dark Lord Skippy
Mongoose
BenTOGS said:
I would be interested in such a book although I've heard of no plans for one.
And really.... drop the font size, man.
You should consider looking at the GURPS Traveller Solomani Rim (Rim of Fire) book to keep you going until (or if) Mongoose does anything with it. The setting info in that is worth the price of entry and usable in any ruleset, although the ship stats and character material isn't compatible because they're GURPS.
It is still available from SJG and is well worth it IMO.
It is still available from SJG and is well worth it IMO.
Traveller has been the all time best seller for Mongoose (maybe MRQII is now rivalling it).
They are producing tons of stuff for Traveller and it's quite a logical progression to expand to the Solomani Rim.
It will sell, they will make money, so it's should be a no-brainer that they'll get to it sooner or later. Just sit back and enjoy the Spinward Marches ride and get ready for that cross-Imperium journey to get your players to the Solomoani Rim.
They are producing tons of stuff for Traveller and it's quite a logical progression to expand to the Solomani Rim.
It will sell, they will make money, so it's should be a no-brainer that they'll get to it sooner or later. Just sit back and enjoy the Spinward Marches ride and get ready for that cross-Imperium journey to get your players to the Solomoani Rim.
Sorry for rhe font size; I quite literally am half blind and thus had the font set high so I can see it; not yelling
Sure wish someone would update the Solo's . Maybe an article in S&P? The SJG Rim is only availiable in PDF which I don't do. If anybody has a source for it in book form please let me know.
Thanks.
Sure wish someone would update the Solo's . Maybe an article in S&P? The SJG Rim is only availiable in PDF which I don't do. If anybody has a source for it in book form please let me know.
Thanks.
sorry, man.
kafka
Mongoose
Agreed. The Rim is interesting as a Berlin of the Far Future but maybe it could be seen also area where two cultures constantly clash but one subsumes the other.
Terra, always, held fascination for me. What would occupation be like? By all accounts, Imperial rule is quite benign but any occupation is still an occupation even if done for all the right reasons. There is no reason to believe in the MgT time frame - the solutions worked out in GT - are not going to be automatically worked out. Authenticity is still at the stage of a psychohistorical proposal that the Imperium is considering.
Add to that, with the border - right there there is constant influencing of an equally successful (or perhaps economically more successful) Interstellar Polity- the Solomani Confederation. For in one interpretation that has been making the rounds of the Traveller discussions is that Solomani Confederation is akin to Switzerland - a heavily militarized democracy not Nazi Germany or the GDR. Yes, there is SolSec, but every government has intelligence agencies (SolSec is just a little more open about it). Similarly, the Party exists an amalgamation of factions and in some cases, particularly away from the Imperial border may share power with other parties. The Central government at Home would be a ramshackle affair with the military, security and civilian officials struggling to find purpose (ie legitimacy) after their defeat. And, Terra still remains their focal point for that struggle. So any plan to do the Rim has to contend with that viewpoint.
Getting back to my first point...how does than the Occupation affect/effect the mindset of the Solomani who were left behind? How do those on the other side help their brethren?
Terra, always, held fascination for me. What would occupation be like? By all accounts, Imperial rule is quite benign but any occupation is still an occupation even if done for all the right reasons. There is no reason to believe in the MgT time frame - the solutions worked out in GT - are not going to be automatically worked out. Authenticity is still at the stage of a psychohistorical proposal that the Imperium is considering.
Add to that, with the border - right there there is constant influencing of an equally successful (or perhaps economically more successful) Interstellar Polity- the Solomani Confederation. For in one interpretation that has been making the rounds of the Traveller discussions is that Solomani Confederation is akin to Switzerland - a heavily militarized democracy not Nazi Germany or the GDR. Yes, there is SolSec, but every government has intelligence agencies (SolSec is just a little more open about it). Similarly, the Party exists an amalgamation of factions and in some cases, particularly away from the Imperial border may share power with other parties. The Central government at Home would be a ramshackle affair with the military, security and civilian officials struggling to find purpose (ie legitimacy) after their defeat. And, Terra still remains their focal point for that struggle. So any plan to do the Rim has to contend with that viewpoint.
Getting back to my first point...how does than the Occupation affect/effect the mindset of the Solomani who were left behind? How do those on the other side help their brethren?
Well, no, not at all, not even remotely. :lol:kafka said:
While Switzerland is indeed militarized to a certain degree, this is purely
defensive, neutralist and isolationist, the Swiss military has no offensive
capabilities whatsoever. Switzerland is a direct democracy, the govern-
ment "apparatus" is extremely weak and unable to act without the expli-
cit consent of a majority of the population. There is no one powerful po-
litical party in Switzerland, the system is built upon the balance of the va-
rious political movements. And the Swiss intelligence service ...
The idea that the Solomani Confederation is akin to Switzerland because
both are democracies with a high military budget is like the hypothesis
that North Korea is akin to the USA because both have parliaments and
a high military budget and the death penalty. :wink:
kafka
Mongoose
rust said:
Of course, YTU may vary... However, from another point of view...here are the facts...
The Solomani government since their defeat have been defensive, neutralist (vis-a-vis the Hivers & Aslan and adopted a defensive stance against the Imperium) and certainly isolationist save some incursions in the Hinterworlds and those pesky Lost Colonies Rimward of Home.
Citizen, have you not read, the latest Party bulletin...the armed forces of the Confederation are only to be used to protect your liberty and democracy.
For our government is a Confederation not an Empire like the bastard Imperium in which each citizen can duly attend their local party cell and express their viewpoint and effect governance.
The Solomani Party is not a single party especially where the tree of liberty has been firmly planted...there are planets which might want it so...but the Party's Constitution prohibits that no one party may dissuade the its mission as the Leading Role in Solomani society...leading can be leading from the ranks of Opposition. Each planet is free to choose their own path. Home does not dictate, unlike Capital, vast projects and military expenditure...the Confederation government relies upon the amassed fleets of hundreds of systems, tens of polities to make up its armed forces.
Surely, citizen you must know that. Perhaps, you need a visit from a Political Officer or please, we encourage you to visit your branch of SolSec so that you will not be convinced by hate filled Imperial propaganda that you have been viewing.
Look, Rust, I am merely reporting the "facts" as they could be seen from another point of view. I would encourage you to do the same...to give whomever writes the Solomani Rim supplement that is bound to come out sooner or later lots of material to work with...so that we don't get the terrible characterization of Space Nazis/Commies which is vulgar Traveller.
Maybe not the Rim itself, but I'd like to see some Solomani material. Reaver's Deep might make a good starting point. The Confederation has some territory there, so details on the Solomani would be needed. It still includes the Aslan and the Imperium, so the familiar governments are still included. The sector consists mostly of pocket empires, client states and independent worlds, so the large overarching government is not strong there.
I've always seen the Solomani Confederation as a more democratic Soviet Union than Nazi-ish. The majority of the bureaucracy is set up along democratic lines, although the freedom of the elections depends on who is in charge and where you are. Heavy surveillance of the population is acknowledged by the government and accepted by most of the population. Just my view.
Sevya
I've always seen the Solomani Confederation as a more democratic Soviet Union than Nazi-ish. The majority of the bureaucracy is set up along democratic lines, although the freedom of the elections depends on who is in charge and where you are. Heavy surveillance of the population is acknowledged by the government and accepted by most of the population. Just my view.
Sevya
I agree wholeheartedly with this, but I am also convinced that Switzerlandkafka said:
would be just as wrong as Space Nazis / Commies are.
What we need is an original description of the Solomani as Solomani, not
an attempt to turn them into copies of anything else, whether Nazis, Com-
mies or Swiss.
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