Ship sizes from different productions

[axolos]

Hi,

I am totally new to B5 ACTA and so far, I am getting more and more confused about the different ships there are.

My questions are:

- Are B5 ACTA from Mongoose and B5 Wars from AoG the same size? Some of them? All of them? Which ones? If not, which are bigger and how much?

- Is it true that B5 ACTA uses similar (or the same) sizes (see question no. 1) as AoG B5 Wars however uses the FA flyers and fighters with bases?

- Are the sizes of Iron Wind produced minis the same as the FA of AoG?

My idea is to get some of the fleets together to be able to play, however I do not want mismatched ships within my collection. So far I have bought some Mongoose ACTA stuff and if the AoG ships are the same size, I would probably also go for some of their stock, which is here and there online as all of it is already OOP.

Anybody knows the answer? Thanks!

 

[Greg Smith]

AoG produced B5 Wars scale (also called Full Scale) and Fleet Action (FA) scale.

Mongoose ships are B5 wars scale, but fighters are FA scale. Although AoG ships used one or more hex base, Mongoose use a single larger flying base.

There are certain exceptions:
Mongoose cast a new smaller Olympus.
Mongoose used certain B5 Wars scale fighters as ships and/or heavey fighters (Vree Tzymm as patrol boats, pak'ma'ra Porfatis, and FA Whitestars as WS fighters).

As far as I am aware, Iron Wind simply recast the existing models, so there is no scale variation there. However they also produced FA minis.

 

[M1ndr1d3rs]

Also, IWM remastered some of the models, and they are slightly larger than the originals.

Welcome aboard BTW..

 

[axolos]

Thanks for the answers.
I am wondering why IWN would remaster the size of some ships but nevermind.

...and thanks for the welcome.
I am still waiting for my Revised Edition Box of ACTA to arrive, so I may actually get a chance to learn the rules and play the game with my friends. (Most probably at FF convention in CZ (http://festivalfantazie.cz/ff/en/) first.)

 

[McKickaha]

Guessing that the Mongoose/AOG moulds finally were too far gone so IWM decided to replace them.

From my own fleets, the IWM remastered ships which are bigger, (and better) than their Mongoose versions, are the G'Quan, Primus and Balvarin.

I think IWM also remastered the Omega and the standard Hyperion as well, but I have never seen them.

& indeed, welcome aboard.

 

[AdrianH]

I think IWM also remastered the Omega and the standard Hyperion as well, but I have never seen them.

I haven't seen the Omega but I do have the Hyperion. It was similar to an earlier Mongoose design with a tapered bow and a large block below the underside turrets providing a more secure mount point for the base stem. (A later Mongoose design had a more accurate, squared off bow.) The Iron Winds version had a smaller command bridge which is more accurate to scale, and a slightly smaller mounting block below the underside turrets, but it still had the tapered bow. The Iron Winds Hyperion also had slightly better detail on the other turrets.

 

[M1ndr1d3rs]

The IWM Omega has a noticeably larger centrifuge section, but otherwise is more similar in size and construction to the original AoG cast, with a slightly wider fuselage than the MGP version and the tiny turrets provided on separate sprues. I think the recasting process somehow made the MGP ones smaller.

The T'loth was also remastered by IWM, but IMO not very successfully. The ship is larger and really worth its price in metal, but the bridge was built in as a small, simplistic diamond-like structure. The MGP and AoG ones had far more elaborate bridge pieces.

 

[Iain McGhee]

I am still waiting for my Revised Edition Box of ACTA to arrive, so I may actually get a chance to learn the rules and play the game with my friends first.)

Do you know that there's been a second edition of the rules released (no longer in print, but Amazon and others still have the rulebook and fleet book plus the Powers and Principalities add-on/"patch". You'll see from the datacards I've put in with your models that there's been a number of significant changes to the ship statistics, not to mention some major rules changes.

If you're sticking with the revised edition (some players seem to prefer it), there were two further books released for that version. Sky Full Of Stars expanded the fleets and campaign rules (and is pretty much essential for the original version of the game) and Armageddon had some rules changes and additional material.

 

[basaint]

Ax

go thru the gallery and you'll see some ship sizes mixed up which look pretty good.