baithammer
Mongoose
That would be a slingshot not a yo yo and only the smaller object would gain any benefit from the system.
Ship Design Philosophy
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Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Rocket Juice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eauxlp1wN8Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eauxlp1wN8Q
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Starships: Engineering, Tweaking and Jump Drives
Okay, I may have gotten the original calculations for the Venture Drive wrong.
Venture
. budget
.. enlarged
.. technological level nine
.. two hundred parsec tonnes
.. twenty scotts
.. eleven and a quarter megaschmuckers
.. twelve and a half tonnes
... overhead
.... six and a quarter tonnes
..... casing
...... five tonnes
...... three and three eighths megaschmuckers
..... capacitors
...... one and a quarter tonne
...... fifty energy points
...... two and a quarter megaschmucker
... core
.... six and a quarter tonnes
..... nucleus
...... five tonnes
...... three and three eighths megaschmuckers
..... capacitors
...... one and a quarter tonne
...... fifty energy points
...... two and a quarter megaschmucker
Two and a half tonnes of capacitors are budgetted at four and a half megaschmuckers equals MCr 1.8 per tonne, instead of however I ended up with MCr 2.25.
So half a tonne of enlarged budgetted capacitors has a capacity of twenty energy points, which leaves four and a half for the jump nucleus.
Four and a half tonnes divided by two and a half equals one hundred eighty parsec tonnes, which requires an injection of eighteens scotts to initiate a transition. That leaves a margin of just a tad above ten percent for an energy surge, resolved with a four hundred and fifty kilogramme battery.
So that's nine megaschmuckers divided by eight tonnes overhead and nucleus, equals MCr. 1.125 per tonne.
Budgetted enlargement at MCr. 6.75 diivided by ten tonnes comes to MCr. 0.675.
Half a tonne of capacitors (MCr. 0.9) plus nine and a half tonnes of overhead and jump nucleus (MCr. 6.4125) equals MCr. 7.3125.
Okay, I may have gotten the original calculations for the Venture Drive wrong.
Venture
. budget
.. enlarged
.. technological level nine
.. two hundred parsec tonnes
.. twenty scotts
.. eleven and a quarter megaschmuckers
.. twelve and a half tonnes
... overhead
.... six and a quarter tonnes
..... casing
...... five tonnes
...... three and three eighths megaschmuckers
..... capacitors
...... one and a quarter tonne
...... fifty energy points
...... two and a quarter megaschmucker
... core
.... six and a quarter tonnes
..... nucleus
...... five tonnes
...... three and three eighths megaschmuckers
..... capacitors
...... one and a quarter tonne
...... fifty energy points
...... two and a quarter megaschmucker
Two and a half tonnes of capacitors are budgetted at four and a half megaschmuckers equals MCr 1.8 per tonne, instead of however I ended up with MCr 2.25.
So half a tonne of enlarged budgetted capacitors has a capacity of twenty energy points, which leaves four and a half for the jump nucleus.
Four and a half tonnes divided by two and a half equals one hundred eighty parsec tonnes, which requires an injection of eighteens scotts to initiate a transition. That leaves a margin of just a tad above ten percent for an energy surge, resolved with a four hundred and fifty kilogramme battery.
So that's nine megaschmuckers divided by eight tonnes overhead and nucleus, equals MCr. 1.125 per tonne.
Budgetted enlargement at MCr. 6.75 diivided by ten tonnes comes to MCr. 0.675.
Half a tonne of capacitors (MCr. 0.9) plus nine and a half tonnes of overhead and jump nucleus (MCr. 6.4125) equals MCr. 7.3125.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Starships: Engineering, Tweaking and Jump Drives
So that's basically the smallest and cheapest jump drive, outside of one shots.
The really smallest would be reduced size times three, which negates enlarged size, and it would be really gaming the system if you permit both alternatives simultaneously, so the actual smallest size would be seven tonnes at one and a half times cost, which would really only get installed in yachts, where those extra three tonnes actually wouldn't matter, since the owner could afford just buy a larger ship.
For practicality, the Venture Drive would need a two hundred parsec tonne performance, so the overhead and nucleus would come to MCr. 6.75; attached would be a twenty five factor capacity, at 1.125 tonnes and MCr. 2.025, as well as a twenty two energy point battery, 0.55 tonnes and MCr. 0.055.
11.675 tonnes at MCr. 8.83.
You save about a tonne and two and a halfish megaschmuckers.
So that's basically the smallest and cheapest jump drive, outside of one shots.
The really smallest would be reduced size times three, which negates enlarged size, and it would be really gaming the system if you permit both alternatives simultaneously, so the actual smallest size would be seven tonnes at one and a half times cost, which would really only get installed in yachts, where those extra three tonnes actually wouldn't matter, since the owner could afford just buy a larger ship.
For practicality, the Venture Drive would need a two hundred parsec tonne performance, so the overhead and nucleus would come to MCr. 6.75; attached would be a twenty five factor capacity, at 1.125 tonnes and MCr. 2.025, as well as a twenty two energy point battery, 0.55 tonnes and MCr. 0.055.
11.675 tonnes at MCr. 8.83.
You save about a tonne and two and a halfish megaschmuckers.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Starships: Engineering, Tweaking and Jump Drives
Unless your usual stomping grounds whirl around small suns, you probably don't want delayed jump as a disadvantage.
That leaves inefficiency as the remaining option:
Overhead and jump nucleus are four tonnes each; drive requires twenty six energy points for two hundred parsec tonnes.
One additional nucleus tonne increases that two hundred fifty parsec tonnes and thirty three and a half energy points.
One tonne capacitors with forty energy points and costing MCr. 1.8 is sufficient.
Per tonne, it costs MCr. 0.84375, equals at nine tonnes MCr. 7.59375, for a total of MCr. 9.39375 for two hundred fifty parsec tonnes, at MCr. 0.037575/parsec tonne, compared to MCr. 0.04415/parsec tonne previously.
Unless your usual stomping grounds whirl around small suns, you probably don't want delayed jump as a disadvantage.
That leaves inefficiency as the remaining option:
Overhead and jump nucleus are four tonnes each; drive requires twenty six energy points for two hundred parsec tonnes.
One additional nucleus tonne increases that two hundred fifty parsec tonnes and thirty three and a half energy points.
One tonne capacitors with forty energy points and costing MCr. 1.8 is sufficient.
Per tonne, it costs MCr. 0.84375, equals at nine tonnes MCr. 7.59375, for a total of MCr. 9.39375 for two hundred fifty parsec tonnes, at MCr. 0.037575/parsec tonne, compared to MCr. 0.04415/parsec tonne previously.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Hulls, Gravitation and Hybridization
Tanks and cargo holds don't really need artificial gravity, unless you're afraid that sloshing the water around at nine gravities will puncture the tank, and your ancestral family crystal wine glasses will crack under the strain. Though that seems more of an issue resolved with inertial compensation.
The only parts that actually need gravitation would be the bridge, the engineering compartment and accommodations.
You'd only have to pay for the gravitation of the hull, to volume specifically allocated for those areas, and a fifty percent discount for those areas that aren't.
Tanks and cargo holds don't really need artificial gravity, unless you're afraid that sloshing the water around at nine gravities will puncture the tank, and your ancestral family crystal wine glasses will crack under the strain. Though that seems more of an issue resolved with inertial compensation.
The only parts that actually need gravitation would be the bridge, the engineering compartment and accommodations.
You'd only have to pay for the gravitation of the hull, to volume specifically allocated for those areas, and a fifty percent discount for those areas that aren't.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
The only limitation so far is at the semimegatonne level, so a Tigress could qualify.
At some point the local source for inertial compensation has to be pinned down, since twenty five gravities is a possible velocity.
At some point the local source for inertial compensation has to be pinned down, since twenty five gravities is a possible velocity.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Life Support and Importing Long Term Support
Assuming one vehicle space is the equivalent of a quarter tonne, which would be sufficient for five people for ninety days for fifty thousand schmuckers. That's three months
Five staterooms, five kiloschmuckers; five occupants, five kay schmuckers; total, ten thousand credits per month.
Three months equals thirty kiloschmuckers for five people with their own staterooms.
I'd say that at default, it's cheaper to keep people alive on a spaceship.
Assuming one vehicle space is the equivalent of a quarter tonne, which would be sufficient for five people for ninety days for fifty thousand schmuckers. That's three months
Five staterooms, five kiloschmuckers; five occupants, five kay schmuckers; total, ten thousand credits per month.
Three months equals thirty kiloschmuckers for five people with their own staterooms.
I'd say that at default, it's cheaper to keep people alive on a spaceship.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Starships: Engineering, Supercavitating and Transitioning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83U8-E4yx98
How I'd imagine another option for transitioning could work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83U8-E4yx98
How I'd imagine another option for transitioning could work.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Hulls and Detection
Tonnage - Detection bonus
100'000 tonnes - DM+2
500'000 tonnes - DM+4
Couldn't find the table for smaller tonnage.
Tonnage - Detection bonus
100'000 tonnes - DM+2
500'000 tonnes - DM+4
Couldn't find the table for smaller tonnage.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Engineering and Overload Drive
By overloading the manoeuvre drive, the engineer can lend the ship extra speed and manoeuvrability ... will increase the ship’s thrust by one during
the next round.
I don't see it mentioned, but I'm inclined to believe that overclocking the drives requires the requisite energy being shunted from the power plant, or whatever energy source is available; possibly, more than would be required by a default higher factored drive.
You could possibly overclock the drive to an even higher velocity, if it had won the silicon lottery.
As regards the reactionary rockets. more fuel mass would have a similar effect, again, probably more than would be used by the next factored model.
By overloading the manoeuvre drive, the engineer can lend the ship extra speed and manoeuvrability ... will increase the ship’s thrust by one during
the next round.
I don't see it mentioned, but I'm inclined to believe that overclocking the drives requires the requisite energy being shunted from the power plant, or whatever energy source is available; possibly, more than would be required by a default higher factored drive.
You could possibly overclock the drive to an even higher velocity, if it had won the silicon lottery.
As regards the reactionary rockets. more fuel mass would have a similar effect, again, probably more than would be used by the next factored model.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Engineering and Overload Drive
Could you overclock a jump drive?
Usually accidentally, and falls under the general definition of misjump.
If it were done deliberately, under controlled conditions, you'd still have an increased chance of a misjump, but by having the requisite fuel and careful control of the energy pumped in, it might be possible and successful.
Could you overclock a jump drive?
Usually accidentally, and falls under the general definition of misjump.
If it were done deliberately, under controlled conditions, you'd still have an increased chance of a misjump, but by having the requisite fuel and careful control of the energy pumped in, it might be possible and successful.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Condottiere said:
Apparently, I have to divide it by two hundred per month to get maintenance costs, the above being construction prices.
So it's five people for two hundred and fifty schmuckers per month; we'll assume that's only lodging, not board.
On the bright side, you can camp out in the cargo hold.
It should be noted, that after three months, you'll have to throw out the oxygen scrubbers.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Life Support and Importing Short Term Support
You only have to replace long term every three months; short term every four days. How much space do replacement oxygen scrubbers take up?
Anyway, presumably a quarter tonne for twenty personnel over four days.
Maintenance is five hundred per month, four days would sixty seven schmuckers per set.
Over a month, the cost would be twenty five schmuckers per person.
About half that of long term, possibly requiring more space for cheap oxygen scrubbers.
You only have to replace long term every three months; short term every four days. How much space do replacement oxygen scrubbers take up?
Anyway, presumably a quarter tonne for twenty personnel over four days.
Maintenance is five hundred per month, four days would sixty seven schmuckers per set.
Over a month, the cost would be twenty five schmuckers per person.
About half that of long term, possibly requiring more space for cheap oxygen scrubbers.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Life Support and Importing Short Term Support
Oops, off by a factor of ten.
Maintenance is five hundred per month, four days would sixty seven schmuckers per set.
Maintenance is fifty per month, replacements cost six and two thirds schmuckers, every four days, per twenty personnel.
Theoretically, you could stretch it out for a smaller number of air breathers, but it probably is a matter of diminishing returns.
Oops, off by a factor of ten.
Maintenance is five hundred per month, four days would sixty seven schmuckers per set.
Maintenance is fifty per month, replacements cost six and two thirds schmuckers, every four days, per twenty personnel.
Theoretically, you could stretch it out for a smaller number of air breathers, but it probably is a matter of diminishing returns.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: How Fast Are The Ships of The Expanse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIaGXcEnC74&feature=youtu.be
I foresee a lot of LED lighting in our future; I think she also mentioned sixteen gees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIaGXcEnC74&feature=youtu.be
I foresee a lot of LED lighting in our future; I think she also mentioned sixteen gees.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Starships: Longspaceships
Reviewing some Saxy Viking history, I recalled that the reason they were successful was their capability to beach their ships very close to their objectives.
That would demonstrate a requirement for a starship that can easily manoeuvre in an atmosphere, rather than waste time standing off and launching smallcraft connectors.
Instead, nap of the earth, and launch grav powered vehicles.
The expensive ones would have stealth hulls.
Reviewing some Saxy Viking history, I recalled that the reason they were successful was their capability to beach their ships very close to their objectives.
That would demonstrate a requirement for a starship that can easily manoeuvre in an atmosphere, rather than waste time standing off and launching smallcraft connectors.
Instead, nap of the earth, and launch grav powered vehicles.
The expensive ones would have stealth hulls.
baithammer
Mongoose
It had more to do with the longships being able to travel across both ocean and river.
Forgetting that the longship has size limitations and beaching is more like docking than trans-atmospheric operations.
In most cases it is less expensive and safer to use auxiliary craft for landing than land a 1,000t+ ship.
Forgetting that the longship has size limitations and beaching is more like docking than trans-atmospheric operations.
In most cases it is less expensive and safer to use auxiliary craft for landing than land a 1,000t+ ship.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
I'm the first to declare you shouldnt risk the jump drive.
However, this would be ameliorated by the capability to get to the objective fast, drop the troops and their gear, but not use the ship's weaponry to engage defensive systems.
However, this would be ameliorated by the capability to get to the objective fast, drop the troops and their gear, but not use the ship's weaponry to engage defensive systems.
