Agent1 said:
Always with the complaints about the scale and the bottom plate! Sheesh, you've been emailing and posting about that since what, AOG's second year in business?
Yeah, just about it. And I won't stop until someone does something about it! :wink:

(Apologies if you already have recieved an overdose of exactly those complaints - but I will keep calling for changes in the hope that enough others speak up for Mongoose to try it - and I for one am willing to put my money where my keyboard is, and re-purchase any mini they recast! At least I'm no longer bombarding you with mails mentioning exactly these things every few months or so :wink: )
Before there was FA, B5W used three ship scales: capital ships (Omega, Sharlin, etc.), heavy combat vessels (Olympus, Warbird, et.al.), and medium ships (White Star, Tethys, and so on)...
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Yup. But even there it just didn't quite work out... anyone ever looked closely at the Raider Strike Carrier? OK, I realize the CGI guys fucked that one up for AoG, mainly because it had these external fighters which allowed rough guesses at it's size, and then increasing the "ship size needed for jump capability" during the show, so that actually a ship the size of the SC was more then unlikely to have a JE... forcing AoG to declare a 300-meter long CGI ship "Capital ship" in their game and making a mini that's about half the length of a 1500 meter Nova... oh, well. More problematic, the fighters on the FS StrikeCarrier are about the same size as FA fighters, and if it was the same scale as the other FS CapShips, they could never fit any fighters into their bays...
Secondly, I wouldn't have minded if the mini scales were something along the lines of "Medium ship 2-4 cm, HCV 5-7 cm, CapShip 8+cm", then at least even the biggest HCV wouldn't be bigger then even a small capship while still keeping the stated points in mind. OK, so they didn't go that way - pity. But still, a few ships are faar to much out of scale - it just doesn't look right if you have an Olympus that's bigger then a Hyperion. So, if the Olympus was rescaled, to something the length of an Artemis for example, I'd be happy. Same for the other outsized ones.
Some (those which are AoG-invented and not from the show) could of course also be "fixed" with chanding the "assumed size" of the ship to match the mini (boost the Halik from MediumShip-sized-equivalent to HCV-sized-equivalent in the new game and the mini fits; one could also cut the Narn Sho'Kar down to a medium-sized scout if one wanted to... or increase the Shafab to dreadnought size...)
As for the plates/holes/hollow areas in the bottom of the ships, keep in mind that metal costs money...
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Yup. But you didn't have a problem with ships like the Poseidon, Mishakur, Athraskala, Vorlon Cruiser, Raider Battlewagon, etc. They all are hollow too, but have No holes in their hull. And most of them didn't burst the price bubble (and those of the mentioned ones which did have another excuse - noone sane would expect a mini the size of a Poseidon to go at the same price as a G'Quan...)
And that's what I want - hulls without holes. Nothing more. Hollow or not, doesn't matter as long as they have their full surface on the outside. And it'd be easy to fix most of the current ones - I know, because I did it in hours of converting (filled the Avenger's bottom from my bits box, the Troligan's with a cut-down FA Troligan and the Neshatan's with parts cut from Vorlon ship petals. Still searching for a good way to do the Morshin, FA-VPK and Shafab...). Just cast bottom plates that fit those holes exactly and I'll shut up...
Finally, regarding Mongoose redoing well over half the line (probably more like 75%) simply to match up with a uniform scale is ludicrous.
Agreement. That'd cost enough to kill their efforts to bring it back real quick. But I do hope they'll find the cash to redo the worst sinners (who cares about a slightly too big WhiteStar when at least it's still looking "smaller" compared to a HCV Vorchan, and you have a Olympus that out-sized several CapShips...)
And for the handful of really bad ships - I would prefer to have them redone along with new releases to have lots of new minis - like in "instead of three completely new minis per quartal, let's have two new and one recast..."
Of course, that's me - maybe I'm alone in this - but I already saw that at least I'm not completely alone.
And I don't even hope for all the "worst cases" I mentioned above (while I'd like to have the ancioents redone, I fear those minis would find too few people willing to buy them to make the effort worth it). But those minis that IMO really, really, really mess things up size-wise (like the Raider Strike Carrier or the Olympus), And are likely to find places in the new game (wargame and RPG encounters) those I hope they will be able to recast one day. And bottom plates added for the few that are with holes. And all future minis made without holes, and at roughly the same size as their fellow class ship minis.
And of course, I alos hopw that the guys at mongoose will go where AoG didn't - especially concerning shuttle and civilian minis - those are soo great for roleplaying... :wink:
More then enough wishes to over-work any santa... :roll: :twisted: :wink: