Queen Elizabeth Class BB
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Joe_Dracos
Mongoose
I believe that the QE and valiant were the first two to be launched and the last three got more advanced guns because of new guns being available during their fitting out.
I could be mistaken.... I read that somewhere... I think.
I could be mistaken.... I read that somewhere... I think.
Digging briefly and only on the Internet:
They all had the BL 15"/42 MkI Guns.
This is the same gun as on the Revenge (Resolution), Renown and Hood, which ought to standardize everything to 33" in game terms (Though the Resolution class is only 26")
I fully acknowledge that the data I am using is quite thin.
They all had the BL 15"/42 MkI Guns.
This is the same gun as on the Revenge (Resolution), Renown and Hood, which ought to standardize everything to 33" in game terms (Though the Resolution class is only 26")
I fully acknowledge that the data I am using is quite thin.
Joe_Dracos
Mongoose
Gah, I remember, its the effectiveness of their gunnery control, not the gun itself. A 10" gun is capable of firing clear over the horizon... your not going to hit anything smaller then a large island, but you can. (unless you have satilite and GPS telemitry)
The Warspite holds the record for the longest shot that hit from a cannon (17km). Its their fire control systems that distinguish them. Warspite, Barham and Malaya recived only partial refits and it was mainly to their gunnery control systems.
The Warspite holds the record for the longest shot that hit from a cannon (17km). Its their fire control systems that distinguish them. Warspite, Barham and Malaya recived only partial refits and it was mainly to their gunnery control systems.
The ranges are typos. They should be 33" for Warspite, QE and Valiant, (which had the modernisation and thus the increase in gun elevation) and 26" for Barham and Malaya (which weren't modernised).
To be strictly accurate the unmodernised guns (which included those on the R Class battleships) could, later in the war theoretically shoot out to 28" due to the introduction of improved propellant arrangements (the infamous "supercharges" - much talked about in gunnery circles in part because of the debate as to whether they were ever actually issued to ships, or just to the few guns used in shore batteries)
To be strictly accurate the unmodernised guns (which included those on the R Class battleships) could, later in the war theoretically shoot out to 28" due to the introduction of improved propellant arrangements (the infamous "supercharges" - much talked about in gunnery circles in part because of the debate as to whether they were ever actually issued to ships, or just to the few guns used in shore batteries)
Joe_Dracos
Mongoose
Warspite... Sharnhorst is criminally undergunned for a Battlecruiser her size.
And Oopse, just went and looked it up in The War at Sea. I typed km when it should have been miles..... .
And Oopse, just went and looked it up in The War at Sea. I typed km when it should have been miles..... .
Sorry I meant for longest range hit between the two - not overall firepower, wiki (and all caveats for that source being observed) lists some controversy over who fired further, Warspite or Scharnhorst (I assume the WWII one here) - so I was hoping a naval buff could answer the question 
There's an analysis here:
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-006.htm
Based on an on-line report of the attack by Scharnhorst and Gneisenau against HMS Glorious, as well as a translation of a German report, the author concludes that Scharnhorst scored its hit at a range of somewhere between 26,400 to 26,465 yards. Although this appears longer than the range of 26,000 yards claimed for HMS Warspite, the author notes that due to uncertainty in the accuracy of the rangefinders, it's effectively a tie.
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-006.htm
Based on an on-line report of the attack by Scharnhorst and Gneisenau against HMS Glorious, as well as a translation of a German report, the author concludes that Scharnhorst scored its hit at a range of somewhere between 26,400 to 26,465 yards. Although this appears longer than the range of 26,000 yards claimed for HMS Warspite, the author notes that due to uncertainty in the accuracy of the rangefinders, it's effectively a tie.
