Pioneer vs Traveller

Traveller = Far Future sci-fi set centuries ahead.
vs
Pioneer = Near Future sci-fi set decades ahead.

Some gamers want to play a setting where the Universe hasn't been explored, and mysteries and technical challenges await them.
 
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I would imagine that Pioneer will have a lot more rules governing the very near future than the core Traveller rules, plus real physics and engineering - rocket equation, deltaV, heat dissipation...
 
Ezarhon said:
Why should I play Pioneer instead of Traveller (Which I already own), limited to tech 7?
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I'll start off with saying that I've not seen the playtest rules, so this answer is speculation based on what's out there in the public domain.

TLDR. Pioneer saves you writing the setting and tweaking the rules yourself.

Pioneer does most of the background work for you if you want to run a game set in the Sol system 2045-55.
I'm assuming current organisations have been projected forward 20-30 years with character generation optimised to produce suitable characters. Possibly some new organisations as well.
Real-world physics spacecraft designs will be used for spacecraft design and travel. There may be a spacecraft design section.
There will probably be some included scenarios/seeds.

If you want to play a TL 7-8 single system based Traveller game set in the Sol system then there's no reason not to use the existing Traveller rules. However:
You'll need a few sentences on organisations and how to produce characters who work for them.
IIRC High Guard has options for chemical drives (?) so you'll need to design some spacecraft yourself if you don't want to use current space magic M-drives.
 
Pioneer will require its own bespoke ship construction rules if any. High Guard technology is not even close to real world physics and engineering.

No rocket equation, square cube law, any law of thermodynamics...

I'd be happy with a simple system, but someone will have to do a lot of maths behind the screen to achieve this, so I am doubtful if there will be ship construction. Unless it is a link to atomic rockets...
 
I pitched PIONEER at the ftf gaming group and got a resounding yes. I think I’ll run the sample adventure for them over Xmas. My aim would probably to have them start their own agency, maybe one with a revolutionary new drive.
 
With the KS draft out, time to revive an old thread and the common skills conundrum across Traveller and Pioneer. The draft career material references Persuade and Diplomat, but the defined skill chapter runs from Admin through Zero-g and does not define either of those as skills. A lot of tables house rule the various persuade skills to make them cleaner, but it's important to keep it consistent.
 
shirgall said:
With the KS draft out, time to revive an old thread and the common skills conundrum across Traveller and Pioneer. The draft career material references Persuade and Diplomat, but the defined skill chapter runs from Admin through Zero-g and does not define either of those as skills. A lot of tables house rule the various persuade skills to make them cleaner, but it's important to keep it consistent.
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Persuade = Charm
Diplomat = Civil Servant (Envoy) in this game.

No! Wait! Diplomatic Access is a mustering out benefit in this game!
 
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