Jotenbjorn
Mongoose
Given the loose nature of Howard's descriptions of Hyboria, there's plenty of wiggle room for new nations. Has anyone added to or modified the map of Hyboria?
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Not really added, but altered some map features that seemed out of place, nothing major though.
The Border kingdoms is a fun place to fudge around with since it is ill=defined. You can basically have various fiefdoms there with tech levels from post-collapse roman empire to Midieval.
The Border kingdoms is a fun place to fudge around with since it is ill=defined. You can basically have various fiefdoms there with tech levels from post-collapse roman empire to Midieval.
I fleshed out the Border Kingdom but the Road of the Kings and the Flower of Aquilonia books give you a lot of info on them. I had a mish mash of races inhabiting the kingdom- mostly Aquilonian, Ophirean, Kothic, Nemedian and Brythunian nobles with refugees from Hyperborea (also slave trading posts) and the last remants of Nordheimer clans. Cimmerian raids were frequent as are the monsters and landscape described in previous sourcebooks.
I mapped out the precataclysmic world of Kull and I've done some maps in Zamora.
It would be nice seeing what the Americas looked like in the Hyborian Age, most realistically it would just be an ice age Americas with more ice as the poles would be slightly of before the finial cataclysm put things the way they are today.
It would be nice seeing what the Americas looked like in the Hyborian Age, most realistically it would just be an ice age Americas with more ice as the poles would be slightly of before the finial cataclysm put things the way they are today.
Jotenbjorn
Mongoose
Wait, if the Native Americans are in Pictland, who's over there? Or is it uninhabited?
rabindranath72
Mongoose
I read somewhere (not sure, probably an essay by Dale Rippke) that the physical layout of the americas would be quite different pre-cataclysm (the one which ended the Hyborian Age)Jotenbjorn said:
RE: your OP, I think it would be nice to flesh things out for each individual GM. I don't quite like extrapolations beyond what Howard wrote; I believe the setting lends itself well to GM fiat.
Jotenbjorn
Mongoose
rabindranath72 said:
Oh, I agree completely. I'm just curious as to what some of those fiats are.
Jotenbjorn said:
Argghhh the Picts are from the same Atlantean stock as the Cimmerians, they just hit rock bottom in Howards world of "regressive evolution."
I get where you are coming from though, REH does portray them as pseudo-Iroquois tribesmen.
So the indians over there would derive or share the same ancestor as the Pseudo-Mayan types in L Sprague De Camps Novella.
Actually they're not... Picts and Atlanteans were seperate and mutually hostile.
The Picts lived on the "Pictish Isles" which may have been the mountain tops of a flooded America. The Picts of the old world were a colony. I would guess that the American Indians are descended from Cataclysm survivors in the homeland, although they may haave been a recolonising effort later
decker423 said:
To expand on my previous post, during the era of Atlantis, Atlantis was a large chain of islands to the west of the mainland. Nearby the island chains of Atlantis were another large chain of islands inhabited by a people called the Picts. The Picts came from the west, that is across the ocean and colonized the islands and began to war with the Atlanteans and all others.
PrinceYyrkoon
Mongoose
Many will attest to the fact that theres been a huge amount of conversation about Howards Picts on these boards! (Hello, Vincent!).
The cannon is vague because Howard changed his mind.
The Hyborian Age essays are the original source for the Picts, (which originally appear more like indiginous British Isles natives), but Howard later used them as a kind of analogy for Injuns when he wrote his stories, even having them wear feathers and moccasins and use tomahawks.
The cannon is vague because Howard changed his mind.
The Hyborian Age essays are the original source for the Picts, (which originally appear more like indiginous British Isles natives), but Howard later used them as a kind of analogy for Injuns when he wrote his stories, even having them wear feathers and moccasins and use tomahawks.
Jotenbjorn
Mongoose
That actually explains a lot of the inconsistencies. People forget that most authors are actually making most of what they write up as they go, despite what they claim.
That's you Mr. Lucas, don't tell me you always planned for Luke and Leia to be brother and sister, Han to be a wuss who won't shoot first, and the Force to be a disease; I call shenanigans!!
That's you Mr. Lucas, don't tell me you always planned for Luke and Leia to be brother and sister, Han to be a wuss who won't shoot first, and the Force to be a disease; I call shenanigans!!
VincentDarlage
Mongoose
Jotenbjorn said:
All the time. Have had players carve out their own little kingdoms out of larger ones, have expanded and contracted borders based on wars the PCs took part in, have had dukes and other nobles attempt to cede from larger nations and embroil the whole in massive civil wars, etc.
I refuse to treat the map as a static thing.
