Nova or Hyperion

[Benjamen the Wolf]

I'll be playing in a campaign soon as the EA 3rd age fleet. The races my opponents plan to play as, that I know of are ISA, Dilgar, Shadows, Crusade era EA, Minbari, and Centauri.

My question is in this situation which would be a better choice to fill out the final battle point for the beginning campaign list? A pair of nova or Hyperion? Both ships look good, and have the pros and cons, but I wanted to ask some of the older hands, as this will be my first time actually playing the EA.

I think the Hyperion is good, it's fast, maneuverable and has fair firepower, but its strongest weapon is boresight, and it doesn't seem to have the hit points to be survivable.

The Nova on the other hand, has a high amount of hit points, good all round firepower in strong batteries, and alot of starfuries to help it. However its slow, lumbering, and its weapons are fairly short ranged.

I'm more apt to go with the nova, for the amount of firepower it can give out, depite its relatively short range.
Thanks for any advice and help y'all can give.

 

[daishi]

I am no expert but I would think it will probably depend on what your other ships are.
2 x Novas will give you an extra IS & if you can get your Novas in the Minbari fleet its more chances to beat stealth
I also see alot of the fleets you are versing are fast & mobile - not good for you with boresighted weapons
The starfuries I would think will be good against some of the races Shadows definitely since we ALL know (except Matt & few others) that Shadow Fighters just plain suck & no AF means Starfuries can survive better
Again I am no expert but this is my opinion

 

[EDFDarkAngel1]

It would help knowing what the rest of your fleet is. You should have at least 2 Novas.

Dark Angel

 

[Foxmeister]

Why don't you just take one of each - best of both worlds!

Regards,

Dave

 

[wyrdmaster]

I agree with posting your fleet list, It'll give the experts on this forum a better idea of what exactly your overall strategy entails.

 

[Benjamen the Wolf]

Right now my fleet is composed of the following ships

Omega Command variant
Omega x2
Omega Pulse variant x2
Hyperion x2
Avenger carrier x2
Nova dreadnaught x2
Omlympus x4

I mainly only have access to the fleet box set as well as some extra models I managed to pick up.

As for my opponents, I know what fleets they're using, but not the compositions of those fleets.

 

[akenatum]

While i would suggest the 2 nova's you could always compromise and take a nova and a hyperion....

At least this way you'll have the bit of flexability of both ships...

 

[locarno24]

Right now my fleet is composed of the following ships

Omega Command variant
Omega x2
Omega Pulse variant x2
Hyperion x2
Avenger carrier x2
Nova dreadnaught x2
Omlympus x4

Hmm.....Might I suggest that neither more Nova-class Dreadnoughts nor more Hyperion-class cruisers are really required; you can field a sizable 'fighting block' at the moment; more than you'll ever field in a single game.

In a campaign, a few small ships and specialists never go amiss, however, and you don't have any. In a patrol-priority game your Olympus-class corvettes can probably cover you but Hermes-class transports wouldn't go amiss (or cost much).

The two areas where you're most under-represented are scouts (you have none - and they're not a bad plan versus Minbari) and troop transports in case you have to do a planetary assault.

Splitting the point down into skirmish level lets you take two Oracle-class scouts and a pair of Hyperion-class assault cruisers (who are also ridiculously tough for skirmishers in low level games).

Alternatively - since relying on stealth yourself against Minbari Leshath-class scouts isn't ideal - taking an Explorer-class as a scout works too; it's just about the cheapest damage tank in the game, and packs an impressive fighter wing to boot.[/i]

 

[Lord David the Denied]

I'd also suggest that your fleet is top-heavy. You have no less than four Omega destroyers in your list. I'd drop the two pulse variants and use the saved points for at least one Explorer and as many Olympus covettes and Artemis frigates you can lay your hands on. As my learned colleague points out, you're under-represented in the lower priority levels and you absolutely need the init. sinks to line up those boresight lasers.

 

[Foxmeister]

I got the impression (and I'm probably wrong!) that he's listed out the ships that he's actually got to choose from, rather than he's proposed campaign fleet.

Regards,

Dave

 

[Lord David the Denied]

There ain't any model for the pulse Omega, buddy... :wink:

Actually a quick count makes that list a ten point battle fleet already. Unless my maths is wrong you can't fit another battle point of ships in there.

 

[Shadow Queen]

drop an avenger, swop the command omega for a warlock (they kick a$$) drop out the pulse omegas take a couple scouts then get int sinks

 

[daishi]

I dont have my fleet book with me but isnt the warlock crusade era ?
he is trying to make a 3rd age fleet I believe

 

[lgryszka]

Drop Omega command and take warlock instead. He is FAR better.
Drop one (IMO two) pulse omega. nova is better choice and cheaper. Instead take oracle scouts AND hermes transports. You have boreside heavy fleet and you NEED int sinks. Hermes is fastest (blocade run scenario), cheapest of your ships and have quite good punch (and aurora ). Additionaly you have lot of weapons without TL. Scout is priceless for EA.

I finished campaing recently with 3ed Era. I started with only one scout. Finished with FIVE (explorer inclusiv ). Almost all my loses was in hermeses. ehhh
http://www.fullt.fora.pl/i-kampania,18/rozpiski-kampanijne,914.html
unfortunately in polish, but ships are ships.

 

[Shadow Queen]

a warlock is crusade and 3rd age

 

[Greg Smith]

I couldn't see any ships, Polish or not, but the girl wrapped up in cabling was ... interesting.


Back on topic, if your fleet has a lot or boresights already, go with the Nova. Initiative sinks are always useful and 14AD TL is not to be sneezed at.

 

[H]

I dont have my fleet book with me but isnt the warlock crusade era ?
he is trying to make a 3rd age fleet I believe

in game terms it is both, but for a true third age feeling fleet you will probably not take it, after all it did arrive right at the end of said third age.

 

[Da Boss]

I dont have my fleet book with me but isnt the warlock crusade era ?
he is trying to make a 3rd age fleet I believe

Warlock is both

 

[Prophaniti]

I'm in a similar situation to the OP. My 3rd age EA campaign fleet is:
1 Warlock
2 Omega
1 Omega pulse (Just to try it out really)
2 Hyperion
2 Nova
2 Avenger
7 Olympus
1 Oracle

Opponents will be Shadows, EA Crusade, Centauri, Minbari, Gaim, Drazi and possibly Narn. I basically have the fleet-box and a Warlock. Will be getting an oracle soon, anything else will be counters. I'm thinking an Explorer is not unlikely and from what you say an Hermes or two as well. I've already submitted this the the campaign master, so modifications will have to come from RR.

 

[Tank]

Personally I cannot recommend the Artemis enough, I think that both Era's that can utilise it should!!! especially against fleets that are deficient in interceptors