New Victory at Sea Products

[Natxo]

Hello Again:

I have read in S&P that there will be new versions of the game, and one of these will be about the WW1.

Does anyone know if these rules will cover the predreagnought perios, the Russo-Japanese war or The Spanish-American war?

In my club we have developped a version for the Napoleonic Era, but unfortunatelly they are written in Spanish. If anyone of you of you is interested, I can send the rules, the rules are still being tested but they will be finished this month.

 

[juggler69uk]

Do you have it as a link on a web page anywhere I can download it, It might prove interesting to try and use a translator on it.

Age of sail is one of my favourite periods

For info dave manly has also done a set called general chase and can be found here http://www.btinternet.com/~david.manley/naval/VAS/VAS.html

 

[DM]

I'm currently hard at work on the official WW1 version. The current plan would have the rules able to be used for Span Am and RJW as well.

 

[juggler69uk]

I'm currently hard at work on the official WW1 version. The current plan would have the rules able to be used for Span Am and RJW as well.

DM If you want an extra proof reader, just ask

 

[Soulmage]

I'm currently hard at work on the official WW1 version. The current plan would have the rules able to be used for Span Am and RJW as well.

DM, based on how long it took OOB to go from submitted to release, can you give us any kind of ballpark on when WWI might come out?**

Are we talking March. . . July. . . December. . . sometime in 09?

**Realizing of course it could be much shorter or much longer depending on what the Mongoose decides to do.

 

[Natxo]

The Age of Sail version that we are finishing in our club will be posted soon in the web:

http://www.freewebs.com/amswargames/.

It´s not posted yet, but I think that this month will be finished. In Spanish the name is A TODA VELA.

 

[DM]

DM, based on how long it took OOB to go from submitted to release, can you give us any kind of ballpark on when WWI might come out?**

Hmm, how long is a piece of string? Its pretty much there but I want the playtesters to give it another set of run-throughs. There are enough differences from regular VAS to make it well worth testing the mechainsms again. And of course there's plenty of potential for confusion once it passes through to the production stage I have a vague memory (hidden somewhere in the pile of emails from Matt) along the lines of looking for Mid 2008 as a target date. However, as usual, Matt is the best person to ask on subjects such as this.

 

[Natxo]

I´m looking forward to hear more about the ww1 version.

There are some very good models for the ross-japanese war and for the Spanish-American war, and Navwar also produces models for the first world war... ummm. Austro-Hungarian & Turkish fleets!!!!

 

[Soulmage]

DM, based on how long it took OOB to go from submitted to release, can you give us any kind of ballpark on when WWI might come out?**

Hmm, how long is a piece of string? Its pretty much there but I want the playtesters to give it another set of run-throughs. There are enough differences from regular VAS to make it well worth testing the mechainsms again. And of course there's plenty of potential for confusion once it passes through to the production stage I have a vague memory (hidden somewhere in the pile of emails from Matt) along the lines of looking for Mid 2008 as a target date. However, as usual, Matt is the best person to ask on subjects such as this.

I'm guessing you have rules for sailing in formations (line ahead, line abreast, etc.)?

Any rules for breakdowns in command and control/misunderstood signals?

Can't wait to see this come out! I've got another set of WWI rules that are a lot of fun to play with, but it will be great to be able to play VaS as well!

 

[DM]

The current fleets being worked up are RN, KM, Russian and Turkish, but the others will be along soon

YEs, there are rules for formations, communications, cock-ups etc.

 

[Natxo]

I will have to wait to see the Strange Austro-Hungarian fleet fighting italian ships.

But Turkish versus Russians seems equaly interesting.

What about the wars I mentioned? Spanish and American fleets in 1898???

 

[DM]

Eventually

 

[Poi]

As OOB was so royally messed up, will anyone have any faith in another VaS product?

 

[Sundog]

As OOB was so royally messed up, will anyone have any faith in another VaS product?

I wouldn't say "messed up". I'd rather have an imperfect product than no product (though a perfect product would be the best option).

 

[Poi]

I wouldn't say "messed up". I'd rather have an imperfect product than no product (though a perfect product would be the best option).

28 pages of errata out of 130 not messed up? You're feeling far more generous than I.

If any piece of work I produced were this wrong, I'd be on a disciplinary!

 

[Poi]

Matt has mentioned in another thread that the offical errata will be out next week, and is only 2-3 pages so far.

Apparently Mongoose don't agree with all the errata in the other document, so it's been pulled.

 

[DM]

Thats right - Matt originally cleared the errata for posting on my website but has asked me to take it down pending the arrival of the official version next week.

 

[Soulmage]

I wouldn't say "messed up". I'd rather have an imperfect product than no product (though a perfect product would be the best option).

28 pages of errata out of 130 not messed up? You're feeling far more generous than I.

If any piece of work I produced were this wrong, I'd be on a disciplinary!

Well, those "28" pages of errata actually include quite a few "corrections" to VaS stats. However, its stated that even those "corrections" aren't so much corrections as they are a standardization of what year was being used for presenting all ships. i.e. the current stats are right, they might just be for 1943 instead of 1942 etc.

Did I read that wrong DM?

 

[DM]

In part, yes. There was also an effort to generate things like secondary armament stats on a consistent basis.