Lord High Munchkin
Mongoose
Or 'Flesh'!!!
Dinosaurs are kuwell.
Dinosaurs are kuwell.
New Traveller setting?
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GamerDude
Cosmic Mongoose
Stargate was pulled back by Sony when they bought MGM (and really hurt AEG when they did that). They rebid the license and decided not to issue it again.Matrix Cypher said:
Serenity under license to Margret Weiss Productions
I think there currently is a Start Trek RPG out.
lastbesthope
Mongoose
GamerDude said:
Firefly is however, an entirely seperate license and noone has that yet.
LBH
lastbesthope said:
Still to much potential conflict there. Sort of like the issues with the Star Trek RPG, with the Task Force Games having rights to this this and that while Last Unicorn / Decipher had Rights to those these and them.....
Better to avoid MESS. Surely there has to be, a Popular Sci Fi series out there that would make a good setting, That's Not, Starwars, Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, and or Firefly/Serenity....
I lean towards Quark myself.
~Rex
Klaus Kipling
Mongoose
Rex said:
Mass Effect.....?
And lo, everyone names every setting under the sun based on no information whatsoever 
. There's a whole other board for this sort of thing here, you know 
. There's a whole other board for this sort of thing here, you know 
captainjack23
Cosmic Mongoose
GamerDude said:
Oh My Ghodddddd.....
Someone else remembers that little gem ?
"What now ?"
"now we wait for a bee..."
Heh heh heh.
Lord High Munchkin
Mongoose
But is there a 'My Little Pony'....
Remember it has to have a 'My Little Pony'!!!
Remember it has to have a 'My Little Pony'!!!
Conan_The_Cimmerian
Mongoose
I think Stargate RPG for Traveller would be an excellent new scenario. I'd like to suggest a few supplements:
- Universe of Stargate (information and rules for 3 series (SG-1. SGA and the new SGU).
- Stargate Command (a sourcebook for campaigns for SGC members, based on SG-1).
- Atlantis (a sourcebook for Atlantis Team and the Pegasus Galaxy).
- The System Lords (a soucebook for The Goa'Uld System Lords, and information and details about their technology, starships and culture).
The Star Trek Universe (TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT) could be other alternative, because Universe of Babylon 5 was canceled.
- Universe of Stargate (information and rules for 3 series (SG-1. SGA and the new SGU).
- Stargate Command (a sourcebook for campaigns for SGC members, based on SG-1).
- Atlantis (a sourcebook for Atlantis Team and the Pegasus Galaxy).
- The System Lords (a soucebook for The Goa'Uld System Lords, and information and details about their technology, starships and culture).
The Star Trek Universe (TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT) could be other alternative, because Universe of Babylon 5 was canceled.
alex_greene
Guest
As I have stated, I suspect that Mongoose might want to design their own proprietary TU setting, history and signature personalities, not connected to the OTU in any way, because it means that they will be handing out the licenses rather than chasing after them.
alex_greene said:
Problem is, licences mean "easy money". Original settings are hard to sell... unless they offer something really distinctive (in rules or setting), they're more likely to just get a handful of fans and not really bring in much money, even if they're really good.
It's much like Hollywood it seems - remakes/licences are solid ground because they know that people will watch them, but actually coming up with something original is much more of a risk. It seems that publishers and film studios tend to gravitate towards the "easy money" option more than the riskier one (which is more of a luxury nowadays, it seems)... but then that means the consumer gets buried under remakes and licensed settings, and gets precious few original settings.
GamerDude
Cosmic Mongoose
If I may correct that a bit...EDG said:
They TEND to mean "EASIER" money.
Look at the licenses that got tanked by the property owner.
AEG licensed Farscape for a d20 based game line... they got the core book out (nice job too) and then BAM! SciFi channel announces they are canceling the show like NOW.
AEG had the Stargate SG-1 license. Great core book (482 pages full color for $50). Then the System Lords book and the books for seasons 1 & 2. The book for season 3 was coming off the presses when Sony yanked the license. What Sony did was, once they bought MGM the owner of Stargate, the put out a call for bids on the game license... including making AEG rebid. In the end the license was issued to no one (both AEG and Eden Studios wanted that license badly).
So, license of a good property does NOT mean easy money... it just means you have a better shot at the money than a new property with nothing tied to it.
Of course, that is my opinion your milage may vary. And I was a demonstrator for both AEG and Eden Studios at the time and had several email exchanges with the owners/license managers about this when it was going on.
alex_greene
Guest
One thing I'd like to point out about licensed products vs. original product.
You can pretty much do what you like with a license you own as the licence holder / originator. You can metagame your own setting, create villains whom you can then turn on their head and write them as something completely different: you've only been seeing one aspect of them this whole time.
You can't do that if your setting belongs to someone else. In the OTU, for instance, you can't retcon the Imperium into being a vast dictatorship and turn the Zhodani into the last, best hope for Democracy - or rewrite the Zhos so that they don't have access to psionics on a cultural level.
But with your own setting, you can create a universe with your own alien races, give them cultures and backgrounds and set up your own backstory. You could then set up historical settings - Traveller adventures set a thousand years in the past of the Federocracy, or a thousand years in its own future - that won't conflict with other sources' versions of the same setting as has been written about in the past.
Just look at the differences between the Spinward Marches settings of CT Trav, GURPS Trav and Mongoose Traveller. Also, look at the difference between Mongoose's Trojan Reach and other sources' versions.
Now the licence for the setting belongs to another source. But if FFE gave Mongoose permission to retain the Traveller engine and set up their own free and independent setting using that engine, they could carry on writing adventures and wars for that setting which would never impinge upon the OTU's setting. Mongoose can turn their own proprietary licence's universe over a dozen times. They'd still have nice, warm relations with FFE - and they could still publish new OTU stuff at the same time, as much as FFE will allow them.
As long as Mongoose keep paying their dues to the FFE licence holders for the use of the engine and the OTU setting, and keep true to the OTU and true to Marc Miller's vision, they can pretty much do what they liked with their own TU. And they'd answer to nobody, because even if FFE sunsetted the engine and the OTU licences, Mongoose would still have their own - they'd simply have to retcon the setting for an engine they themselves would have to design.
You can pretty much do what you like with a license you own as the licence holder / originator. You can metagame your own setting, create villains whom you can then turn on their head and write them as something completely different: you've only been seeing one aspect of them this whole time.
You can't do that if your setting belongs to someone else. In the OTU, for instance, you can't retcon the Imperium into being a vast dictatorship and turn the Zhodani into the last, best hope for Democracy - or rewrite the Zhos so that they don't have access to psionics on a cultural level.
But with your own setting, you can create a universe with your own alien races, give them cultures and backgrounds and set up your own backstory. You could then set up historical settings - Traveller adventures set a thousand years in the past of the Federocracy, or a thousand years in its own future - that won't conflict with other sources' versions of the same setting as has been written about in the past.
Just look at the differences between the Spinward Marches settings of CT Trav, GURPS Trav and Mongoose Traveller. Also, look at the difference between Mongoose's Trojan Reach and other sources' versions.
Now the licence for the setting belongs to another source. But if FFE gave Mongoose permission to retain the Traveller engine and set up their own free and independent setting using that engine, they could carry on writing adventures and wars for that setting which would never impinge upon the OTU's setting. Mongoose can turn their own proprietary licence's universe over a dozen times. They'd still have nice, warm relations with FFE - and they could still publish new OTU stuff at the same time, as much as FFE will allow them.
As long as Mongoose keep paying their dues to the FFE licence holders for the use of the engine and the OTU setting, and keep true to the OTU and true to Marc Miller's vision, they can pretty much do what they liked with their own TU. And they'd answer to nobody, because even if FFE sunsetted the engine and the OTU licences, Mongoose would still have their own - they'd simply have to retcon the setting for an engine they themselves would have to design.
FreeTrav
Cosmic Mongoose
EDG said:alex_greene said:
Actually you can, in this specific case - you just re-write the setting from the Zhos' point of view. Nothing actually changes, just the interpretation of events presented to the reader
And that's exactly what the Alien Modules and MegaTraveller Alien books did.
