Mobile Infantry Add-ons Updated: 01/11/2008

[Hiromoon]

I packaged it up in a PDF, then exported it in JPG format. I understand people's varying issues with some of my choices in that I put here, and that's alright. I'm sure not everyone's going to be pleased with my ideas, but by putting it on a public forum I, like anyone else who puts their work out there, have accepted that some will dislike it, some will like it.

Now, I've gone ahead and added a weapons chart to the Engineers, and tacked on an extra little device borrowed from the Rogue colonies army list from one of the Signs and Portents.

Edit: Had to revise one stat...should be okay now though.

 

[Mage]

Cool. I forgot about the chaplain from the rpg. Nice Hiro!

 

[ScipioAmericanus]

Hiro:

As I said in my message to you, I'll be reviewing that one. GREAT WORK!

Engineers are being discussed right now.

Regards.

 

[Hiromoon]

NP! Truth be told I was looking through the RPG book and spotted the Chaplain.... and thought, "You know, I'd love to do a model of this guy, but how would he work in game".

Now I'm saving that model for when the SST:WOTS comes out with the new Trooper miniatures, just so I can kick it off with a bang.

The Engineers was something that I threw together today, actually. I wanted to pre-empt you guys


Mage: Thanks! As I've said before, I wanted to get this guy in there just because it's just too cool.

 

[ScipioAmericanus]

The Engineers was something that I threw together today, actually. I wanted to pre-empt you guys

Trust me. You CANNOT pre-empt Matt! He is amazing! I've had several ideas in recent weeks that I thought were just so incredibly quirky that NOBODY except a sick mind like mine could have thought of them...only to have Matt tell me, very blase', "Oh yeah, we've already talked about that." :lol:

That's why he's the Boss!

Regards.

 

[Hiromoon]

True, but would you look at that? I whipped this up in one day and got it out for public consumption.

 

[ScipioAmericanus]

True, but would you look at that? I whipped this up in one day and got it out for public consumption.

Absolutely! Of course! I didn't mean to imply otherwise!

Regards.

 

[Col_stone]

Cool stuff, i think i might put together a engineer squad to run around fixing my marauders

 

[ScipioAmericanus]

True, but would you look at that? I whipped this up in one day and got it out for public consumption.

Hiro, I have "whipped up" a lot of stuff as well. I have also labored for un-counted hours on a project that I KNEW would be a "killer" only to be told that my stuff wasn't required. Remember all those decals? That was almost 150 hours of work on my part. Everybody wanted them (and maybe still do). But economic realities intrude.

You, as a playtester, should realize that writing a rule entails FAR more than just a good idea. You, of all people, should know this better than most! Each rule has to be evaluated in terms of game balance, etc. In the case of the Combat Engineers, our rules will require new figures...so we'll have to make them.

I think I know your mind: I have one position on a certain issue, Matt has another. We both share an equal passion for SST...in fact, Matt's is probably more intense than mine (hard to believe!) since the ultimate livelihood of his company and his employes depends upon him making the right decisions. You have to remember that we don't live in an ideal world. At the end of the day, MGP will do whatever makes the best sense business-wise and try to satisfy ALL customers.

We're listening! We're all on the same team as well! We ALL want SST:WOTS to realize its full potential. The 2005 Origins win is just what we intend to build on...and repeat...and surpass.

Regards.

 

[Goldwyrm]

Something from my game table:

Notice the mine laying variant. Might be a good add on for Engineers. If not an ATV, maybe some other light vehicle for deploying equipment.

 

[Makoto]

Neat!
Now just to make a LAMI chaplain... Hmm...There were some spare Moritas and bitz in the bitbox ^^

 

[lt.harper]

Nice, I like the engeners.

 

[Paladin]

Another idea for champlains from the novel - "5 minutes for Padre". Give the unit a bonus on combat drops due to the moral boost/slightly calmed nerves.

 

[Mr Benn]

I don't like the chaplain as a separate character.

If you want to include a padre it would seem to fit better as a heroic trait - along the lines of medic. (Maybe nothing more than a renaming of Rallying Cry)

The padre in book, Sergeant Migliaccio, fits into the regular command structure (first section leader). And I get the impression that his rank has nothing to do with his Ecclesiastic training.

Also the fluff doesn't ring true - of no particular faith, the SICON regulation book as their bible. This sounds more like a SICON military officer or IG Commissar. (And none of the incarnations of SST have any indication of devotion to SICON - in fact often the opposite; referring to it as Psycho.)


The Engineer squad I like but I undertand they may be on the cards anyway.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

I don't like the chaplain as a separate character.

If you want to include a padre it would seem to fit better as a heroic trait - along the lines of medic. (Maybe nothing more than a renaming of Rallying Cry)

I disagree, it adds colour and flavour to the Army.

The padre in book, Sergeant Migliaccio, fits into the regular command structure (first section leader). And I get the impression that his rank has nothing to do with his Ecclesiastic training.

Not really, as most Chaplains are priests first and then join the Military. Their initial Ranks are honorific.

Also the fluff doesn't ring true - of no particular faith, the SICON regulation book as their bible.

I wasn't aware you spent so much time in the future to know exactly how people think and feel about religion. AMAZING . . . . . . .

This sounds more like a SICON military officer or IG Commissar. (And none of the incarnations of SST have any indication of devotion to SICON - in fact often the opposite; referring to it as Psycho.)

NOTHING like an Imperial Guard Commissar from your previous analysis either, as Commissars have a VERY devout faith to follow.

With regards to the Devotion to SICON - there must be a certain amount of devotion or else the whole thing would fall apart Lol!

The Engineer squad I like but I undertand they may be on the cards anyway.

I for one applaud the effort, and look forward to seeing how close Hiromoons vision comes . . . . .

 

[ScipioAmericanus]

I don't like the chaplain as a separate character.

If you want to include a padre it would seem to fit better as a heroic trait - along the lines of medic. (Maybe nothing more than a renaming of Rallying Cry)

The padre in book, Sergeant Migliaccio, fits into the regular command structure (first section leader). And I get the impression that his rank has nothing to do with his Ecclesiastic training.

Also the fluff doesn't ring true - of no particular faith, the SICON regulation book as their bible. This sounds more like a SICON military officer or IG Commissar. (And none of the incarnations of SST have any indication of devotion to SICON - in fact often the opposite; referring to it as Psycho.)


The Engineer squad I like but I undertand they may be on the cards anyway.

I like your idea about the Heroic Trait!!!!

Regards.

 

[Mage]

Hiro,

I think the chaplain works well as a seperate unit.

As for the enginer platoons I think they should be half stryker suit, half power suit and half exosuit. Wait...

Anyway, I imagine them to have heavy armour on the legs, and loads of tools, and some small portable weapons on their arms and shuolders to leave them room for doing engineering things. Also, fewer models, and small jump jets, maybe with extra height. And a snazzy different helmet, and a massive wrench.

Oh oh oh, small welders built into each finger on an armoured gauntlet. And make them good at knocking down big models and buildings, and good at surviving explosions.

 

[Mr Benn]

I don't like the chaplain as a separate character.

If you want to include a padre it would seem to fit better as a heroic trait - along the lines of medic. (Maybe nothing more than a renaming of Rallying Cry)

I disagree, it adds colour and flavour to the Army.

Yes indeed it does. But does it fit with the Citizens Federation?

The padre in book, Sergeant Migliaccio, fits into the regular command structure (first section leader). And I get the impression that his rank has nothing to do with his Ecclesiastic training.

Not really, as most Chaplains are priests first and then join the Military. Their initial Ranks are honorific.

I don't think the MI throw around honorary ranks. Sgt Migliaccio would no doubt have started as an ape just like everyone else.

Also the fluff doesn't ring true - of no particular faith, the SICON regulation book as their bible.

I wasn't aware you spent so much time in the future to know exactly how people think and feel about religion. AMAZING . . . . . . .

Yes, I often time travel :wink: (Not sure what prompted your hostile response )

Going by the book, religion is still going strong in the future.

Some of the boys dropped out of ranks, went over and knelt in front of Migliaccio, and not necessarily those of his creed, either -- Moslems, Christians, Gnostics, Jews, whoever wanted a word with him before a drop, he was there. (Chapter 1)

Also many of the Chapter prefaces are biblical or koranic quotes. (And yes, I am aware that the game background is an amalgam of many sources, not just the book)

This sounds more like a SICON military officer or IG Commissar. (And none of the incarnations of SST have any indication of devotion to SICON - in fact often the opposite; referring to it as Psycho.)

NOTHING like an Imperial Guard Commissar from your previous analysis either, as Commissars have a VERY devout faith to follow.

With regards to the Devotion to SICON - there must be a certain amount of devotion or else the whole thing would fall apart Lol!

I'm not sure that devotion is the right word. The system works so people support it. And as a officer cadet points out in H&MP ""Because revolution -- armed uprising -- requires not only dissatisfaction but aggressiveness. A revolutionist has to be willing to fight and die -- or he's just a parlor pink. If you separate out the aggressive ones and make them the sheep dogs, the sheep will never give you trouble."

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Its no different that teaching RE in modern schools, the Teachers have to be able to accomodate many different faiths and beliefs.

A Chaplain in the MI would be no different, being able to offer comfort and solace to everyone.

 

[Mage]

Not to mention getting Christians, Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Jehovahs witnesses, pagans, satanists, new age religions or anything else I missed or left out or any of the extremes or under the umbrella to fight together as one army with no enmity needs a Chaplain. Not being racist or anything but come on, look at the world today. Nobody likes each other. Religoin just makes it worse. Indirectly.