einsamerwolf
Mongoose
When can i buy this new books?
If i buy it now i will get book 4 without errors?
I have stopped ordering some month ago
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When can i buy this new books?
If i buy it now i will get book 4 without errors?
I have stopped ordering some month ago
lord darkstorm
Mongoose
-Missing Equipment section
-Incorrect action chart for bonus adventure
-Terrible text alignment, where sometimes the text is half off the bottom of the page
I don't mean to be a whinger over this, but I've paid £11 for a collectors edition book, and I don't think that's exactly what I've gotten. Typo's and errors such as the 309 one I can live with, but text almost completely falling off the bottom is a bit much.
-Incorrect action chart for bonus adventure
-Terrible text alignment, where sometimes the text is half off the bottom of the page
I don't mean to be a whinger over this, but I've paid £11 for a collectors edition book, and I don't think that's exactly what I've gotten. Typo's and errors such as the 309 one I can live with, but text almost completely falling off the bottom is a bit much.
Well, in a way, but not really...BlackCat said:
When Project Aon started, the word from Joe was just "make the books available". Correcting errors was PA's own initiative. Then Joe asked us to provide our electronic texts to Mongoose, but I don't think he explicitly asked us to revise them once more - rather, it was us who had lists of outstanding issues.
However, Mongoose aren't sending our versions straight to the printers, they are making further corrections of things that we found "unsolvable" (and made footnotes for instead of corrections in the text), and then they are doing some other general changes. And it's here that new errors have crept in.
I am not sure if I'm the absolutely best proofreader (the competition among the PA volunteers is fierce
) but if Mongoose contacted me I'd certainly accept the job.That still wouldn't fix the typographic problems with cut off text and illustrations though - those are problems Mongoose have created for themselves by trying to utilize too much of the page area at the same time as they've had an (obviously) non state of the art printing facility. In comparison, some of the old Swedish gamebooks I have are clearly pretty cheap print jobs, but the page margins are huge (and the font sizes smaller), so some misalignment here and there doesn't matter.
frankwanderer
Mongoose
Most of the mistakes people are pointing out which are new to the collector's editions are publishing errors, not textual ones. Exceptions, such as the missing section in Book 3, seem largely to remain isolated exceptions. I bought the Mega-deal, and do not recall any commitment made by Mongoose that the books would not be published as previously written (except Book 1, the new art, and the new map). Therefore, I do not expect such. Most all "collector's editions" are reprints. Special, yes, but still only reprints; no more, not less. That reality forms the baseline for my expectations of Mongoose for those editions (just as it forms the basis of my expectations of any book publisher that publishes a "collector's edition").
There is little realistic point to reviewing a pre-printing .PDF of the "final" book immediately prior to printing. One, that will not actually capture any of the publishing and binding errors that have formed the greatest majority of complaints I have seen so far regarding the collector editions. Two, if the .PDF is of the "final" book, then it is too late for an "independent reviewer" to actually catch anything that can be fixed prior to the books being printed (such is the nature of a "final"; if it is issued earlier than before the book being printed, then such a .PDF would be, by definition, not a "final" and therefore errors still might creep in between the time the .PDF is reviewed and the book printed). I have worked for a printing company in the past, and so do not have any illusions about how this process typically works.
Frank the Wanderer
There is little realistic point to reviewing a pre-printing .PDF of the "final" book immediately prior to printing. One, that will not actually capture any of the publishing and binding errors that have formed the greatest majority of complaints I have seen so far regarding the collector editions. Two, if the .PDF is of the "final" book, then it is too late for an "independent reviewer" to actually catch anything that can be fixed prior to the books being printed (such is the nature of a "final"; if it is issued earlier than before the book being printed, then such a .PDF would be, by definition, not a "final" and therefore errors still might creep in between the time the .PDF is reviewed and the book printed). I have worked for a printing company in the past, and so do not have any illusions about how this process typically works.
Frank the Wanderer
Any idea as to whether everyone should have their issue 4 by now or are there some people still waiting for their copies?
I'm asking simply because mine has not yet arrived and I know people have theirs. If the orders are still being processed then it's all good.
Kind of saddened that I didn't get any 'faulty' copies
I 'used' to be an avid collector of the Lone Wolf stock and memorabilia and would have hunted these down too! Hah, I'm rather silly like that.
Peace
I'm asking simply because mine has not yet arrived and I know people have theirs. If the orders are still being processed then it's all good.
Kind of saddened that I didn't get any 'faulty' copies
I 'used' to be an avid collector of the Lone Wolf stock and memorabilia and would have hunted these down too! Hah, I'm rather silly like that.
Peace
Threepwud said:
They are - the sale of Call to Arms miniatures has really impacted on the warehouse, but it is a temporary thing, and we will be fully back online with our normal speedy service about the same time that Book 5 is released!
WritingWolf
Mongoose
To frankthewanderer:
You said it better than anyone else mate. These are basically reprints. Aside from glaring mistakes in the originals, or rewrites, they are exactly the same story.
Which is no bad thing as the original books are fantastic.
The reprints in my mind are shiny new books, fabulous covers and quality maps, better paper and new bonus adventures. AND the end of the New Order books.
Unfortunately the original 80s books are much higher quality than Mongoose's. When the Goose gets it right, the books are amazing and fautless. My copy of Book 1 is fab. Book 2 looks good too. Book 3, now the section is back, is brill. Book 4 is lacking.
If you purchased a DVD, and say half the picture was missing, or a menu option didn't lead anywhere, would you be satisfied or would you ask for a refund?
The same should be true of books. Now I will buy the LW books as I want to support LW and Mongoose for printing them, but please let's have a top quality product. Book 5 should bring us this with the new printing process.
You said it better than anyone else mate. These are basically reprints. Aside from glaring mistakes in the originals, or rewrites, they are exactly the same story.
Which is no bad thing as the original books are fantastic.
The reprints in my mind are shiny new books, fabulous covers and quality maps, better paper and new bonus adventures. AND the end of the New Order books.
Unfortunately the original 80s books are much higher quality than Mongoose's. When the Goose gets it right, the books are amazing and fautless. My copy of Book 1 is fab. Book 2 looks good too. Book 3, now the section is back, is brill. Book 4 is lacking.
If you purchased a DVD, and say half the picture was missing, or a menu option didn't lead anywhere, would you be satisfied or would you ask for a refund?
The same should be true of books. Now I will buy the LW books as I want to support LW and Mongoose for printing them, but please let's have a top quality product. Book 5 should bring us this with the new printing process.
