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...And another explanation, for another delay.
...And i'm not inclined to just cancel my order, having received my rulebook more than two month ago.
...Well played. I'm waiting for what I ordered, but after that I frankly think I won't look at a moongose game again. Wich is sad as I was interested in VAS 2.0. We just can't trust what you say.
...And i'm not inclined to just cancel my order, having received my rulebook more than two month ago.
...Well played. I'm waiting for what I ordered, but after that I frankly think I won't look at a moongose game again. Wich is sad as I was interested in VAS 2.0. We just can't trust what you say.
Matthew posted this over on ADB's BBS:
Hi guys,
Rumour Control!
The metals are using the same masters as the resins, so there should be no drop in detail.
Cloaked ships will be done in resin, though Rob has been surrounding himself with test tubes and weird scientific equipment, madly gibbering about a breakthrough see-through metal he has been working on.
The Condor, C8 and bases will be resin. At the current time, the Fed Dread is metal.
No price changes on the metals. _Potentially_ there _could_ be an increase on the larger singles but, as the large models are all resin, we will likely avoid this.
Those who want resin on their pre-orders can have resin - though we would advise one and all to give the metal a try as it will be good. As for the future... it is our intention to be perhaps offer the entire range in resin for special orders, but we cannot promise anything right now, nor can we promise there would not be a premium on such models (they will need completely new moulds for a start). However, the intention is there.
It will take a little time, but I will see if I can get a metal model painted photographed next to an identical resin one, and we can play spot the difference
Lovely test, though we will be concentrating on fulfilling orders first.
++
I'm not sure it made it here so I reposted it.
Jean
[Edited to fix the smile]
Hi guys,
Rumour Control!
The metals are using the same masters as the resins, so there should be no drop in detail.
Cloaked ships will be done in resin, though Rob has been surrounding himself with test tubes and weird scientific equipment, madly gibbering about a breakthrough see-through metal he has been working on.
The Condor, C8 and bases will be resin. At the current time, the Fed Dread is metal.
No price changes on the metals. _Potentially_ there _could_ be an increase on the larger singles but, as the large models are all resin, we will likely avoid this.
Those who want resin on their pre-orders can have resin - though we would advise one and all to give the metal a try as it will be good. As for the future... it is our intention to be perhaps offer the entire range in resin for special orders, but we cannot promise anything right now, nor can we promise there would not be a premium on such models (they will need completely new moulds for a start). However, the intention is there.
It will take a little time, but I will see if I can get a metal model painted photographed next to an identical resin one, and we can play spot the difference
Lovely test, though we will be concentrating on fulfilling orders first.++
I'm not sure it made it here so I reposted it.
Jean
[Edited to fix the smile]
emperorpenguin said:Damn that's not good.
That also pushes up the cost of travelling to the tournament, for me, by €30 each way as metal minis can't be in hand luggage.
That may well prevent me going
Very odd - I take metal minis with me all the time when I travel and have never had a problem. The last time was at Gen Con last year (and this is getting into the US where, unlike the UK it seems lately, they don't just let in anybody), and they were metal SF miniatures. Caused the border guard to smile when when she saw 'the Enterprise' but that was the extent of it.
Cyporiean said:
No change in price. At all.
We will always look at the resin option and keep an eye on it.
It basically comes down to what is practical to cast - SF models, by their design, are not 100% suited for resin casting, so we will keep resin for the larger models (the C8 and Condor) and metal for the rest.
In comparison, our new Victory at Sea minis have been designed from the outset for resin (which cannot be done with SF, due to their shape), and the entire range will be cast that way.
ErikB said:
The current flying bases were designed to cope with heavy metal models - they come from the Babylon 5 range whose models were, in general, larger and heavier than the SF ships. And remember, SF ships that would be heavy in metal (like the C8 and Condor) will still be resin.
Kirksfolly said:
They may well already be on their way to you, in which case they will be resin. Most replacements will be resin.
Renny said:
We have to give our projections because that is what people want to hear. If I thought we could just bury our heads until everything is ready, believe me, we would.
However, we have always been open as a company, which means you get to see some of the grit under the surface as well the cooller stuff. The flip side is that you will always know what is happening.
And yes, the QC system for metal is different than that for resin, is extremely well understood by our guys, and we do not foresee any issues there - our Noble Armada and Judge Dredd lines speak for themselves in that regard.
McKinstry said:
Honestly, depends when we get to your order (hammering through them now). Feds will go out as resin, right up until the switch on the box sets which will take place end of week after next-ish.
Greg Smith said:
The first ships we did for SF were metal Heavy Cruisers. Still got mine, they have travelled thousands of miles and none have had a pylon problem.
Da Boss said:
1. None, they are all using the same masters (point of disclosure - a tiny number are being remastered, for example a slightly thicker thin on some Romulan ships, but these remasters would have been done anyway had resins continued).
2. Yes and yes. In some cases, they are easier to cast in metal, and certainly more durable in transit (see Romulan fins above). The stands were designed for metal ships originally, and larger ones at that.
3. No. No changes now, and none planned.
GalagaGalaxian said:
To be fair, these were changes requested by players.
I am also not completely unconvinced that a new army/fleet book once a year, that updates everything and adds new units is not the way to go for a minis game. It means players have to be 'current' but it is just one book a year and it means any problems are quickly seen to.
Something for another time though, we are not planning to do this with SF.
GalagaGalaxian said:the first release of Mongoose Traveller and, well, I'm sorry Jean but I'm having trouble staying motivated and positive.
The current release of Traveller is the same as the first...
Stumonster said:I assume there will still be a resin set of clear ships for the Romulans, or has a certain Scottish engineer's formula for transparent aluminum been discovered?
They will indeed be resin.
Nerroth said:
Good way of putting it - yes, exactly.
Matt,
Quick question (I have read two different stories this luchtime) – Do we have to e-mail Mongoose to express a preference for the Resin or Metal minis?
(I have an outstanding order for a Federation Fleet Box and a few blisters (Ramius-class Battle Frigates & Ortega-class War Destroyer)
Quick question (I have read two different stories this luchtime) – Do we have to e-mail Mongoose to express a preference for the Resin or Metal minis?
(I have an outstanding order for a Federation Fleet Box and a few blisters (Ramius-class Battle Frigates & Ortega-class War Destroyer)
msprange said:emperorpenguin said:Damn that's not good.
That also pushes up the cost of travelling to the tournament, for me, by €30 each way as metal minis can't be in hand luggage.
That may well prevent me going
Very odd - I take metal minis with me all the time when I travel and have never had a problem. The last time was at Gen Con last year (and this is getting into the US where, unlike the UK it seems lately, they don't just let in anybody), and they were metal SF miniatures. Caused the border guard to smile when when she saw 'the Enterprise' but that was the extent of it.
To add to that, I just fly a few weeks ago within the states with a Portable Warfare bag filled with metal Brushfire figs, and had no problems going through security. They paused on the bag in the x-ray for a second in Orlando, but let it through with no other issues.
Bag also fit under the seat of all 4 planes I used
Apep said:
If you ordered them from us, yes. If you ordered them from ADB, please let them know.
I also have experience of the FASA Enterprise. If it's supported, it can survive transport without any trouble. The problem is when it's out of the packing case and on the table, at which point the unsupported nacelles on the thin metal pylons start to droop. It could be interesting if someone's Constitution gradually turns into a Kirov during the game. :lol:msprange said:
A long time ago I got a packed set of Starline 2200 ships - the Constitution, the D7, the Bird of Prey and a Gorn destroyer. All were metal except the Constitution, which was plastic, probably for the same reason.
AdrianH said:
Hasn't happened with our metal heavy cruisers - for the past three months (four?) they have been either in a display case or on the table, fighting.
Happy to report, no droop
