In-Service Dates for ACTA Ships.

WickedLance

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Is there any document in the vast repository of ADB's Starfleet universe that has Service dates for the ACTA ships for those of us that would love to do a Historical campaign?

Please? Pretty please? With Cherries on top?
 
Your best online resources may be the Master Ship Information Tables available over on ADB's BBS for the strategic game Federation and Empire (which are separated out by empire, and include a lot of ships that you may not be familiar with).

However, the devil is in the detail. The way in which the concept of a Year in Service varies in Star Fleet Battles relative to Federation Commander; and since A Call to Arms: Star Fleet takes after the latter, that has a knock-on effect on what you see in this game.


For example, take the Constitution-class Heavy Cruiser. On paper, its Year in Service date is Y125; however, the version of the ship that actually set sail in that era did not possess certain later refits that are incorporated into the version you see in the ACtA:SF core rulebook.

In SFB, the background data for the Federation specifically includes data on which refit was added when; and on the SSD for the Fed CA, you can see the various refit costs statted out (and various types of shaded boxes showing which systems get added per refit).

In FC, however, the Ship Card for the Main Era CA has the refits already incorporated in; the "pre-refit" version of the Heavy Cruiser is published as a separate Middle Years CA Ship Card.

So, in SFB, you have a more incremental process where you can gradually introduce refits on a year-by-year basis; whereas in FC, you have the Middle Years (Y120-160, give or take) and the Main Era (General War) treated as whollly separate settings.

Therefore, in ACtA:SF, the "CA" you currently see is good for use in the Main Era "setting"; but you'd need to convert the Middle Years CA Ship Card in order to get the original version of the ship.


(And it gets even worse with the likes of the Fed CL. That has a Main Era version, a Middle Years version, an Early Warp version, a Warp-Refitted Version, a "sublight" version, and the Federal Republic of Aurora's version over in the Omega Octant.)


If you are familiar with the way in which Babylon 5: A Call to Arms worked, there was a similar dynamic for some of the older EarthForce ships (like the Hyperion); the stats for the hull varied depending on which of the three era fleet lists (Early Years, Dawn of the Third Age, or Crusade Era) you were using to create your own fleet.

Only that we haven't seen the older era ship versions officially statted up in ACtA:SF yet; and they would probably only really work if the other Middle Years fleets in FC: Briefing #2 were ported over at the same time.


So, to cut a long story short; if you want to use the current crop of ships in a year-by-year campaign, start off in Y166 or so, and assume that any ships with an older YIS date than that are already available "as-is".
 
With the rulebook set statted for fully refitted ships in the General war (which includes a big set of refits around 175 from memory) I would say that if you are doing year in service assume anything with YIS before Y175 is fine and in game as per the rulebook stats.

Anything that turns up after 175 you can use the YIS data to allow or disallow it based on when you are playing.

As ACtA expands you may have pre 175 refitted versions or a standard for the period a la Earth Alliance early etc from B5 brought it, we shall see, but for now if you want to do Middle Years tyou are going to have to do refit conversions down yourself (good luck with sorting out the rules for the unrefitted Fed DD - it seems to have 9V warp engines....). As pointed out SFB brought in a series of refits across many classes over time - its fairly easy to track for a single empire, more work to go through this for several.
 
Yep as nerroth says F&E dates are for the non refitted in service dates but the ACTA ships tend to include all of the refits which came later.

A slightly eaisier to navigate version on the data is at the bottom of this page: http://www.starfleetgames.com/federationandempire.shtml for the main empires.

If you want the data for the refit dates as well then best to invest in a copy of SFB module G3 http://store.starfleetstore.com/mer...re_Code=S&Product_Code=5423&Category_Code=SGH

I own a copy of the original G1 from 1996 and it has almost all of the info for the current crop of ships. If you really want to put dates into a campaign and have all of the info eaisily to hand then get one of these!

Geoff
 
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I do really like the G3 module. I wore out two copies of G2 before having the good sense to go looseleaf. :) It has all sorts of interesting "stuff" in there.

Jean
 
I didnt used to pick up G3 often, usually I'd be grabbing an SSD book and rulebook folder which had al the relevant stuff in - but the more I use ACTA the more I use G3. If and when a Master SSD book appears (in electronic format ideally) they it and G3 would probably become the two most picked up bits of SFB material for me.
 
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