Glorantha - THE SECOND AGE

[Voriof]

By the way, the Twins also had a third important cultic site, at Meetinghall Mountain, in Slontos. You'll be glad to know that I don't think we're ever properly marked where that was, either. (Although we're most probably speaking of Second Age Wenelia ot Herilia... i.e. bits that later got sunk.)

Cheerio,

Stu.

Meetinghall Mountain's location is in Trader Princes along with the plight of its pathetic inhabitants. The Sinking and the Closing is hard on them. The site is at its heyday in the 2nd Age as the poster child for successful God Learner meddling. A wonderful place, full of brightness, magic, twins, and flame which sends out expeditions to volcano gods/goddess all around the Homeward Ocean.

Jeff

P.S. The Volcano Twins were remarkably tough to fit into the new format but what the heck, eh?

 

[Stewart Stansfield]

Meetinghall Mountain's location is in Trader Princes along with the plight of its pathetic inhabitants...

Cheers, Jeff, I look forward to it!

P.S. The Volcano Twins were remarkably tough to fit into the new format but what the heck, eh?

Don't worry, the snippet reads great [and we are all humbled by Chuck Huber's mammoth cult write-up(s)]... though when I first read it I hadn't woken up properly, and even in light of Moray and Telerio's jiggery-pokery was thrown by the sudden appearance of Light of Idovanus on the following (non-sequential) page...

Stu.

 

[Vadrus]

Now they lose the "This looks like a good system, maybe I'll buy it?"-buyers.

If I did not know RuneQuest from before, I would never have started playing MRQ who has a 96-pages thin rulebook.

SGL.

This has all been thrashed out in many previous threads, in the end it seems Mongoose are happy at producing what is the most expensive per page mainstream rpg on the market and it's unlikely to change


Vadrus

 

[Trifletraxor]

Finished the last chapter of the book today: Campaign Setting.

Overall a good book. Very superficial though, both on the mythos/history and geography. We will need more detailed region-books to follow up this one.

And please Mongoose, PLEASE: MORE PAGES PER BOOK!!!

SGL.

 

[GbajiTheDeceiver]

Finished the last chapter of the book today: Campaign Setting.

Overall a good book. Very superficial though, both on the mythos/history and geography. We will need more detailed region-books to follow up this one.

An equivalent to the Ralios PDF for each of the major regions would be nice. For Genertela that might include Fronela, Peloria, Maniria, Dragon Pass, Prax/Wastes and Kralorela.

And please Mongoose, PLEASE: MORE PAGES PER BOOK!!!

At a pinch I personally prefer quality to quantity. Having both does win every time though.

I'm not too distressed by the pages/price thing with these - maybe that's memories of the Bad Old Days when RQ3 deluxe was an utterly astronomical price. Accounting for inflation, the 3 books that roughly equate to much the same content (Core/Companion/Monsters) do work out very reasonable indeed.

 

[duncan_disorderly]

If it was more pages and cost more, you'd likely lose the impulse market of "I bought it to take a look at because it was cheap enough to buy with the spare cash I had on me".

There is no such thing as a hardback that is cheap enough to buy with spare cash - because once it gets down to that price it is so slim as to look ridiculous as a hardback

 

[mthomason]

Oh, you'd be surprised how many people (especially those new to RPGs) will happily pick up a £15 hardback when they would think twice about a £25 one, no matter how many pages.

 

[Dead Blue Clown]

One of the characters, from a Dragonspeaker cult called the Children of the Ten Talons, has taken to wearing a mechamagical bronze clockwork hand on a necklace, which he took from the corpse of a particularly powerful Zistorite.

Isn't that a bit dangerous?
What if the hand activates and strangles him? :shock:

Then he vomits liquid fire onto it and pimp-walks to his next battle with the soft rattling of dragonbone armour.

 

[Darran]

One of the characters, from a Dragonspeaker cult called the Children of the Ten Talons, has taken to wearing a mechamagical bronze clockwork hand on a necklace, which he took from the corpse of a particularly powerful Zistorite.

Isn't that a bit dangerous?
What if the hand activates and strangles him? :shock:

Then he vomits liquid fire onto it and pimp-walks to his next battle with the soft rattling of dragonbone armour.

Nice visuals!

 

[CharlieMonster]

I know MRQ can't produce the same way as D&D.
But a 160-pages maximum??? That's abnormal!
SGL.

They produce B5 with a 360 page count admittedly for £30, but that's not a huge amount for core rules, it would be nice if they could make that kind of gamble on MRQ. Especially given it is selling so well (at least according to my LGS).

 

[MongooseMatt]

They produce B5 with a 360 page count admittedly for £30, but that's not a huge amount for core rules, it would be nice if they could make that kind of gamble on MRQ. Especially given it is selling so well (at least according to my LGS).

It is worth pointing out that it may be selling as well as it is (_very_ well), precisely because of the price points we were able to set. . .

 

[Vadrus]

They produce B5 with a 360 page count admittedly for £30, but that's not a huge amount for core rules, it would be nice if they could make that kind of gamble on MRQ. Especially given it is selling so well (at least according to my LGS).

It is worth pointing out that it may be selling as well as it is (_very_ well), precisely because of the price points we were able to set. . .

And of course using an established rpg name didn't affect that at all?


Vadrus

 

[Darran]

They produce B5 with a 360 page count admittedly for £30, but that's not a huge amount for core rules, it would be nice if they could make that kind of gamble on MRQ. Especially given it is selling so well (at least according to my LGS).

It is worth pointing out that it may be selling as well as it is (_very_ well), precisely because of the price points we were able to set. . .

That is good news that RuneQuest is selling well.

 

[Trifletraxor]

They produce B5 with a 360 page count admittedly for £30, but that's not a huge amount for core rules, it would be nice if they could make that kind of gamble on MRQ. Especially given it is selling so well (at least according to my LGS).

It is worth pointing out that it may be selling as well as it is (_very_ well), precisely because of the price points we were able to set. . .

It might be selling well, but the fact that we buy it, doesn't mean we like getting ripped off and wouldn't prefer a better product. Splitting it into several very short books maximizes the prices for us consumers.

SGL.

 

[Kagan Altar]

I really like the book so far. I think it's cool for us to have another era of Glorantha to run games in. That's a nice change from the Hero Wars and allows the fans to know more about stuff that's been around for ages like the Wyrmfriends and the God Learners.

For the moment, the one thing that I think could have been much better is the editing. Some extremely annoying mistakes have been left in the text. That doesn't look professional to me. What I expect, as a customer, as far as the text is concerned, is nothing less than perfection, particularly when we're talking about Glorantha. This book's editing is far from perfect.

 

[JonGeere]

I really like the book so far. I think it's cool for us to have another era of Glorantha to run games in. That's a nice change from the Hero Wars and allows the fans to know more about stuff that's been around for ages like the Wyrmfriends and the God Learners.

For the moment, the one thing that I think could have been much better is the editing. Some extremely annoying mistakes have been left in the text. That doesn't look professional to me. What I expect, as a customer, as far as the text is concerned, is nothing less that perfection, particularly when we're talking about Glorantha. This book's editing is far from perfect.

Mongoose does seem to have a problem polishing the final product. In many ways this is a shame, but at the same I appreciate the speed they are getting out the products. But I will wait until I have mastered the art of producing a perfect product in quick time before casting my stone at them.

Producing products with stupid, glaring mistakes is another thing...!

Edit: The last sentence needs qualification: contary to some I don't feel Mongoose has done this for RQ with the possible exception of Legendary Heroes, which needs closer inspection.

 

[Dead Blue Clown]

What I expect, as a customer, as far as the text is concerned, is nothing less that perfection, particularly when we're talking about Glorantha. This book's editing is far from perfect.

Dude, it was written by Robin Laws, and Greg Stafford went through that book before it went to print. Is there some other criteria you can think of? I'm sure you could email the Mongoose people and tell them about it, since no one likes making mistakes, especially when someone is expecting perfection. After all, it's not like there's ever been any errors, contradictions or changes in Glorantha material before. If there ever had been, there might be a word for them. Maybe "Gregging" or something?

Yeah, that might fit.

 

[Kagan Altar]

Dead Blue Clown, I'm not speaking of background mistakes.

I'm speaking about editing. Typos, words repeated, bad grammar, that kind of stuff. Robin Laws and Greg Stafford can be great guys, great game designers, great authors, but that doesn't mean they can't make typos. Editing is part of the publishing process and it seems to me that this step (I wonder how many careful rereadings of the whole material there's been) has been partially screwed up. Bottom line: it has nothing to do with the actual authors.

 

[Dead Blue Clown]

Dead Blue Clown, I'm not speaking of background mistakes.

I'm speaking about editing. Typos, words repeated, bad grammar.

Ahhhhhhh, I getcha.

Then, yeah, that's bloody annoying.

 

[homerjsinnott]

Dead Blue Clown, I'm not speaking of background mistakes.

I'm speaking about editing. Typos, words repeated, bad grammar.

Ahhhhhhh, I getcha.

Then, yeah, that's bloody annoying.

Personally I think most books have typos ( even the Bible has had them), and unless it's infested with them I don't really care.

It's a bit weird to expect a perfect book.