skavendan said:What exactly is the problem here?
The problem is no one has proven that the Skrunnka was broken because it had hull 6 before and no one has proven that it is broken at hull 6 under the new Gaim fleet rules. I'm stating my experience is that it isn't reliably survivable enough to do what it's charged with doing as it stands now based on my experience playing with it. The arguments against returning it to hull 6 to make it slightly more survivable have so far been proven inaccurate (better weaponry than other ships, pods an auto-win, etc.). IMO this suggests that too many changes were made to the ship in the original revised list (is "original revised" an oxymoron?

The evidence I have asked for is playtest results proving that returning it to hull 6 is broken. So far we've only seen theoryhammer opinions that it will be. In the one example provided so far, the Urik'Hal vs the Skrunnka, the scenario was weighted heavily in favor of the Skrunnka (10" apart to start? Try that with a White Star -the same PL level, even the revised version- as an opponent to the Skrunnka and see how well it works out). Which BTW illustrates quite well the falacy that ships in this system can ever be balanced on a ship-by-ship basis. Some attributes are simply better all around than others, no matter the combinations. Not that they cannot be toned down to reasonable levels, but some ships in a given PL will always be better than others. My opinion is that the Skrunnka is not as good as it should be given its role and other attributes.
The problem to me appears to be that people recall how broken the fleet was before and are so paranoid about it being broken again that they are unwilling to consider *any* positive change to the fleet even if it may be needed. I think it *is* needed in this case. I am willing to be convinced otherwise, but I won't be by arguments that cannot stand up to scrutiny which so far they have not. If someone plays with the Skrunnka as part of an entire fleet over several games and shows me that my experience is an anomaly, then fine. I can abide by that. However, I haven't seen that to date. Given the apparent lack of Gaim players nowadays I'm not sure it will actually appear (they all were beaten back to their homeworld apparently ;-)).
Cheers, Gary