stepan.razin
Mongoose
If the Narn want a fleet carrier and/or a better assault ship, how about listing something the fleet would give up to gain such capability. I am sorry, but "Because we dont get one" is not convincing enough argument.
Gaim in P&P
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Foxmeister
Mongoose
stepan.razin said:
Wouldn't it be nice if people actually read the thread to determine the *context* of a comment? I brought up the T'Loth purely to demonstrate that the Gain Assault ship isn't bad at all when compared to its peers. Hiff added some comments which I believe should be taken in the context of the original post which mentioned a carrier without Fleet Carrier - his asking for one was probably just illustrating the fact that the Narn don't get one full stop.
Regards,
Dave
stepan.razin
Mongoose
Foxmeister said:
This was a Gaim related thread. Give it a few days, and it will be the "injustice against the Narn fleet" thread. I am just pre-emptying the whining.
See, its starting already.
Actually its commenting on design...
Chris is dead wrong in saying that fleet gaps are the designers perogative, but balance is ours. The flat reality is neither is ours, the designer may do what he wants. Our perogatives are to complain, to buy or not to buy, that is all.
I personally feel just fine complaining about gaps that don't make any sense from a military standpoint. Even in some cases I might buy a economic reason (in the fluff) for passing on a specific type but not just that a race is mentally incapable of conceiving of the need, not if that race has managed to carve out a interstellar empire.
Ripple
Chris is dead wrong in saying that fleet gaps are the designers perogative, but balance is ours. The flat reality is neither is ours, the designer may do what he wants. Our perogatives are to complain, to buy or not to buy, that is all.
I personally feel just fine complaining about gaps that don't make any sense from a military standpoint. Even in some cases I might buy a economic reason (in the fluff) for passing on a specific type but not just that a race is mentally incapable of conceiving of the need, not if that race has managed to carve out a interstellar empire.
Ripple
Methos5000
Mongoose
Da Boss said:
I suppose it could be argued that maybe the pak'ma'ra do have a scout but it sits on a very expensive very rare ship that they won't risk in a combat zone.......but then EA uses the Explorer and Psi-Corp uses their Motherships in combat and throws that argument right out the window.
Greg Smith
Mongoose
A lot of ACTA battles can be described as 'What if?'
What if the EA used one of their 6 explorers in battle?
What if the ISA could fight the Dilgar?
What if the Psi Corps engaged in open combat?
Feasability and likelyhood can be stretched very far indeed.
What if the EA used one of their 6 explorers in battle?
What if the ISA could fight the Dilgar?
What if the Psi Corps engaged in open combat?
Feasability and likelyhood can be stretched very far indeed.
it was not intended as a whinge about the narn, more an illustartion that asking for a fleet carrier at level X, when you already have fleet carriers and fighters coming out of your nose, is a bit whiny when some fleets don't have a fleet carrier. The gaim are already tough, and you demand more? next,the ISA players will be damanding the titanostar, dodge 3 on an armageddon hull with 18 dice of TD beam. . .
CZuschlag
Mongoose
Don't give 'em ideas, Hiff.
The good news is that we are getting some very legitimate issues threshed out slowly (Space Stations being a biggie, but also Fusion Missiles, Hunting Pack, Drazi Attack Run, the Xaar, Narn CBD, and the Abbai Shield Regens); the bad is some serious shipgreed is getting tossed out there, too.
For example, Da Boss is starting to notice that his originally light-fluff Vree Extractions Beams are becoming full-fledged and unpriced weapon systems against certain ships in the game.
The good news is that we are getting some very legitimate issues threshed out slowly (Space Stations being a biggie, but also Fusion Missiles, Hunting Pack, Drazi Attack Run, the Xaar, Narn CBD, and the Abbai Shield Regens); the bad is some serious shipgreed is getting tossed out there, too.
For example, Da Boss is starting to notice that his originally light-fluff Vree Extractions Beams are becoming full-fledged and unpriced weapon systems against certain ships in the game.
Greg Smith said:
Hate to say this but having just glanced through thw Gaim rules and presuming I am reading the right version the Assault ship does now have hull 6? :?
Skrunnka-class Assault Ship Raid
Designed to batter through defences and launch shuttles filled with vicious assault drones, be it at an enemy ship or enemy-held world, the Skrunnka is tough and can weather the most devastating attacks. It lacks a wide range of offensive weaponry, leading the Queens to wield its legion of assault drones as they would any other ranged system.
Speed: 8
Turn: 1/45o
Hull: 6
Damage: 38/7
Crew: 50/10
Troops: 16
Craft: 2 Klikkita flights, 8 Breaching Pod flights
Special Rules: Anti-Fighter 6, Carrier 3, Interceptors 2, Jump Engine, Shuttles 8
In Service: 2255+
Weapon Range Arc AD Special
Heavy Gatling Laser 12 F 4 Beam, Double Damage
Heavy Gatling Laser 12 A 2 Beam, Double Damage
Heavy Gatling Laser 12 P 2 Beam, Double Damage
Heavy Gatling Laser 12 S 2 Beam, Double Damage
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noobdelux
Guest
Da Boss said:
it got hull 6 in the book, but in the revised list it should be hull 5.
stepan.razin
Mongoose
skavendan said:
With 12" range, I dont think it scares anybody.
