EDG said:
As far as I'm concerned NNTP is dead - I don't think much of the current generation use it, and I sure found it awkward and annoying and unfriendly to use while it was around. I think SJG is the only RPG company that still uses NNTP, and even it has a separate web-based vbulletin forum now. But if you insist on sticking to NNTP then if I were you I wouldn't be surprised that nobody uses your boards nowadays - like it or not, the web is the way to go now, and frankly has been for the past decade or so.
The software I've chosen is multifunction - if you don't want to use NNTP, you don't have to - but it's an option, and it's one that I require simply because it lets me download messages, read, and compose replies at times that I don't have access to the 'net. That's why I am on the paid SJG forums; I can grab them using NNTP and read/compose on the train or when I'm between trouble calls at work. The web interface for Freelance Traveller's forums isn't really all that different, fundamentally, from any other webboard.
EDG said:
The problem with private forums is that you need to give people a reason to go there - as you point out, they have to register and remember yet another password and username (and if they have to figure out how to use usenet readers and posting software too then that's really going to put a crimper in your userbase). Publishers provide an obvious reason for people to go there - to discuss their products and get some official word on the product - but most of the smaller private forums don't, especially if they support a game that's already got (at least) one major forum centred on it. And given that Traveller has three publisher forums dedicated to it (one of which claims to cover every version of the game) I don't really see a niche for other Traveller forums to occupy. I'm just looking at your forum now and don't have a clue what to do with it or how to post anything (so you've lost me there already), and even if I could post, I don't have a reason to because apparently only a handful of people would read it and fewer would be likely to respond. Why do that when I can go to a forum based on familiar software, where I can get a response much more quickly from a much larger userbase?
All very good points. I have the forums mostly for completeness; as a Traveller Resource, I think that it's "necessary". I'd certainly like to see more traffic, but, as you indicated, I don't have the "draw", and I can't think how to get it. (BTW, if you haven't signed up, you won't be able to post. This is mostly because I don't want to become a spammer haven; if I require membership to post, I have better control over removing spammers.)
EDG said:
Websites and blogs are an entirely different matter though. Your own website gives you a chance to post your own material somewhere that you have complete control over it. And a blog gives you a chance to do that as well, and gives you a chance to have a discussion of it too.
I honestly see very little difference between a blog and a forum; the principal difference appears to me to be that in a blog, *I* control the discussion threads, plus the "traditional" presentation. In my case, I originate very little discussion material; forums allow others to originate threads. If I wanted to, I could even make the FT forums look bloggish.
EDG said:
I may sound disparaging, but I'm just trying to be realistic here - if you really want to maximise the chance of someone reading your posts and working on your contests then you have to go where the people who are most likely to do that are, and make it easy for them to do so (while also not spending all your time copying and pasting the same things over and over again). And right now the most popular format of discussion is the web-based bulletin board, and the three most popular places that Traveller fans hang out are most likely the Mongoose Traveller boards, the TML, and CotI (and there's a fair degree of overlap).
Which is why I chose to post to all of the above, plus Comstar's/Avenger's Traveller's Aid Society and the SJG JTAS/Pyramid forums. I'd forgotten about SJG's free forums; I'll have to give them a lookie. But cut-and-paste is literally that; I don't have to retype, and in an era of tabbed browsers that can save sessions, it's not even all that time consuming. The more exposure I get, the better the turnout has been (although I recognize that there are limits to that). If there were ways of increasing the turnout within a given forum, I'd be interested in knowing that, too.
EDG said:
I might suggest that you set contests that use design systems that are already out there though. There's ship design and vehicle design rules in all versions of Traveller, but not so much for items that could be found in a ship locker.
A valid point, but one that I'm inclined to disagree with. The Locker contest WAS off the beaten track, but the idea - as with most stuff in Freelance Traveller - is to come up with interesting ideas that can add to a campaign, whether they're rule-based or have generation systems or not. It's mostly people's IMAGINATIONS I'm after here; what's the point in churning out hundreds of designs without any imagination as to how they could be used, or what makes them special? All 200-ton Free Traders fit into the same niche, but the
Empress Marava-class can't be the only model out there - what are some of the others, and why might I choose one of them (or NOT!) instead of a Marava? That's what I'm after, with most of the contests - the imagination that takes us beyond the generic Marava hired by the generic patron to do a generic job armed with generic body pistols. It's also the reason I don't do much with the Shipyard at Freelance Traveller; too much of what was submitted was just specs, generated by one program or another, with no real imagination added. I don't want that; I'd rather see more imagination and less stats.
EDG said:
I'd suggest that the solution would be to drop your own forums and just pick an existing larger forum and stick with it. Where do most of your submissions come from? If it's all or mostly from the TML or JTAS then just post the contest announcements there, don't bother posting the entries on forums at all (which should save you a tone of time), and when it's all over just make a second announcement saying that it's done and link to a page on your website with the entries there for people to refer to.
Meh. The time cost isn't really that high; the biggest downside is the inconvenience to me in having to go to all of the different forums separately. Which I'd still have to do to alert people when things get updated even if I limited the contest specs and entries to a single location (regardless of what that location would be). Given my druthers, there'd be just one central Traveller forum site - not even necessarily mine, though I think I'm reasonably well-equipped for it - with a whole bunch of generic topic areas, and one or two vendor-specific topic areas for each vendor, with a vendor rep present. That'd make the community less fragmented, and reduce the number of passwords and usernames that people would have to remember. Ideally, it'd support all of the access methods - e-mail, news/nntp, RSS, ATOM, and web - but I think the most important point would be to defrag the community.
That's unlikely to happen, though, so the principal objective here is going to be to try to keep track of what's there, and I'm the one that needs to make the effort to reach out, rather than asking people to reach out to me. If people WANT to reach out to me and come to my forums, I'll be happy - but it's ultimately up to them. Until that happens, I need to reach out to them, since I'm asking them to do something for me (provide material for FT).
(BTW, contact me at editor@freelancetraveller.com or see me in #Traveller on Undernet or #Lonestar on Otherworlders if you want help with the FT forums.)