First Time Slaine ?'s

[Gavinwulf]

Hello Slaine fans.

I'm planning on running a Slaine game this weekend with the Savage Worlds conversion. I also bought the new RQ Slaine book for setting info.

I have a couple questions because I've never actually read the comic (really really really want to though! Not as popular here in the U.S.) but I love the Tain.

My question is how Warped Ones are treated by the rest of the tribespeople. All I can find in the book is that most Celts aren't entirely happy associating with them. What does that mean? Are people just a little wary around them? -"Be careful around that guy."
Or are warped ones total loners among those who know?
Do villagers and innkeepers deny them hospitality?

Also, are all able-bodied tribesmen warriors? Are there folks who are just 'farmers' or 'merchants'?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

 

[Standing-Stone]

My question is how Warped Ones are treated by the rest of the tribespeople.

Thats a hard question to answer. Though I couldn't find any informatioon to support why a Warped One would get treated any differently, I do remember reading something of this in D20 Slaine.

I thought they might suffered from a lowered Charisman, but there appers to be none of that.

Apply some common sence, as Warped-Ones appaer to be normal all times except when warped and at that they are alittle taller and more savge looking.

They're sort of like a anceint version of a bikey or terrorist.

They might have projectile weapons aimed at them, swords pointed at them nervously when being dealt with by Tribeal mebersif they are known to be Warped.

Surely they friends and family would be have some built up resistance to thsi fear.

Maybe your not the only warped warrior in the tribe.

Druids might understand this condition and not be afraid or discriminating.

Ukko and the Dwarf, despite being cowardly and constantly beaten by Slaine doesn't appaer to be otherwise unaturally afraid of Slaine.

He may cheating towards or rude towards the barbarian, but that is part of his nature.

A warped thief or vagabond is naturally going to get treat worse than a Warped King and Slaine has seem both sides of this.

With regards to common sence it to depend on how experienced the idivdual charater dealing with the warp-one is. They may be nerous or rudely dscriminating or treat them as a hero. Espeically if they just saved the village.

Depends on alos how much they would like to deal with a warpo-one who has decided to Warp-out because they just upset him.

are warped ones total loners among those who know?

Slaine was a loner because he was thrown out of his tribe for seduicing the King'sride to be, not because he was warped. Although that might havebn a factor. Ireally not so sure mysefl if Slaine warp side was kept secret from the rest of the tribe. or not. Otherwise I think almost treated like blessing. Excpet people still might be careful around him.

Do villagers and innkeepers deny them hospitality?

Despneds on their personal relations to that tribe or innkeeper. depnds on how well they treat freindly monsters and how stable that warped stranger is.
If they are a hero or king they should still expect better than usel treamnet.

Slaine the vagabond was hunted relentlessly and locked up when caught.
Slaine the king was respected.

Fell fre to disagree me incase you think I got it wrong.

It's a interesting point, as it's question that seems more simple to answer only when first thinking about it.

The whole time I was, I was also thinking of that part from Highlander when Colin Macleod gets ostrcised from his clan and home when he came back to lfe. Of course those Scots were christinised by that time. At a guess. I remember seeing the holy men and friars during the clan battle fighting by their sides.

People in the time of Slaine were Pagans and perhaps more tolerant of the abberant nature of the Warped.

 

[Ronzo The Grim]

They're sort of like a anceint version of a bikey or terrorist
Thats a bit harsh, speaking as a biker who has served under the colours.

 

[Gavinwulf]

Thanks for the info Standing-Stone.

I had to reply to offer thanks and to report that this past weekend's game was INCREDIBLE!!!

I've been running 'The Cattle Raid of Tighean Dubh' adventure. I have been using the Savage Worlds Conversion by Superc0ntra. My group has had the most fun we've had in a long time. We haven't played Savage Worlds for a while and so this time we were using the newer SWEX rules. I think it captured the savage nature of Tir Nan Og quite well.

It took a little time getting used to how you are supposed to RP in the world of Tir Nan Og, but once we got it, man was it fun! Taking Heads, Seducing young lassies, and brawling for the Champion's Portion! -That's just plain Man-tastic!

 

[Standing-Stone]

They're sort of like a anceint version of a bikey or terrorist
Thats a bit harsh, speaking as a biker who has served under the colours.

Sorry, to offend, Ronzo the Grim, but in your experiences. While you were wearing your colours are you aware of being treated diffrently in certain places.

Usaulley in civc areas, I guess.

Particalley if your by yourself and in your colours.

I know it was probably silly of me to put Bikey and Terrorist in the same sentance like I was trying to imply something.

Like I miant one was supposed to be mistaken for the other.

NO, I didn't mean that, I was actually referring to a outlaw or criminal element that is thus recognised and treated differently.

I should have said OUTLAW.

I might also mention... a Rockstar with a known reputation for being a typical rockstar if you know what I mean.

Thanks for the info Standing-Stone.

Actualely, you can probably forget evryhting I wrote beforer in reply to your query. As I think it's really a persoanl choice.

Modified by some obvious factors.

AS for my refereance to 'Highlander' I think that worth remerbing.

Just forgget evrrything else I said.
Okay.

 

[Ronzo The Grim]

Your right Standing Stone, while wearing my uniform, I have been subjected to a lot of abuse, both verbal and physical, and as a tattooed biker I have seen 'proper' people giving out the look of disgust.


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[Standing-Stone]

Your right Standing Stone, while wearing my uniform, I have been subjected to a lot of abuse, both verbal and physical, and as a tattooed biker I have seen 'proper' people giving out the look of disgust.

While I'm glad I mad emy point, I 'm at the same time ashamed I steotyped bikers so badly.

Perhaps a betterexample would be...

If you went into a shop carrying a loaded gun in full veiw of the shopkeeper and other customers whle buying your groceries and still proceeed to pay at counter.

What od you think would happen?

How do think a unformed cop as to opposed to person who is dresssed as a stereotyped outlaw ( As opposed person like your self who is a member of a biker club.) would be treated in the same situation?.

You know that the person with the loaded weapon is either going to be given a wide berth or the shopkeeepr might also be pointing a gun back at them. Chances are that person will not be short changed if they intend on paying.

It would be most likely that the uniformed cop is going to be treated with respect. Why? because it would be silly not to. Unless that paritcular cop is known to be corrupt or incompetant. Thne the uniform might not make much difference, thought the loaded weapon in their holster probably will. Depneds on the level of crime where the shop is. I guess.

Of course this could all be roleplayed dfifferently.

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What does that mean exactly?

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It's obvious you have lost some people close to you within your biker community. My condolaneces., but lets stay on topic.

 

[Ronzo The Grim]

Very interesting points and well thought through.

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[tarkhan bey]

Gavinwulf,
Whether or not all the able bodied men are warriors or not would probably depend on the situation. If in defence of their hearth and home, then all able bodied men and many of the women would be warriors.
If on a cattle raid or going to battle against some enemy, I would say that each village would have a warrior elite cadre. This would be the job of these warriors. Young men from crafting,herding and farming backgrounds with warrior aspirations would probably tag along. Only if there was an entire tribal muster would every able bodied man be expected to turn up(with the last one arriving being sacrificed to the Goddess).
From the tribal musters in Way of the Horned Lord, I take it that there is one professional warrior for every ten part time warriors in any settlement.
In the old D20 Slaine they were differentiated as Noble Warriors and Tribal Warriors and had different progression charts.
These are, of course, just my thoughts on the subject.