Iain McGhee
Mongoose
Something that came up in a recent game: Any reason that a squad that is split into fire teams can't reform later in the game ? I don't see why not myself, but we couldn't see any rule for or against.
Fire Teams
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shotgun-toting chipmunk
Mongoose
Nope, feel free to split or rejoin squads. Just make sure it is at the beginning of your player turn.
Ali the conqueror
Mongoose
yes you can (split and rejoin), just remember that seargent are not independent hence he needs at least one fire team intact to him. (yep, that's right, you cannot diminished whole fire team in the list to get -20pts seargeant)
Rabidchild
Mongoose
There's never been a rule that allowed fire-teams to rejoin. That said, play the game the way you like.
Iain McGhee
Mongoose
Couldn't see anything that disallowed it either, hence the question 
What happened was that one of my SS squads had split to attack a T-34. One of them lost all but one figure but they killed the tank. The other team (with the Sergeant) moved back into command range and reformed the squad next movement action. Don't see why that wouldn't be allowed, just wondered what was the most common interpretation.
It's really more of an issue for my MC games. My Marine squads use Humvees and LAVs for transports, so if they can't reform they would be stuck as seperate teams.
What happened was that one of my SS squads had split to attack a T-34. One of them lost all but one figure but they killed the tank. The other team (with the Sergeant) moved back into command range and reformed the squad next movement action. Don't see why that wouldn't be allowed, just wondered what was the most common interpretation.
It's really more of an issue for my MC games. My Marine squads use Humvees and LAVs for transports, so if they can't reform they would be stuck as seperate teams.
Rabidchild
Mongoose
Iain McGhee said:Couldn't see anything that disallowed it either, hence the question
The rules don't disallow me from winning on the roll of a 2-6 either. :rolls: Ok, you got lucky this time, I rolled a 1.
In my experience "the rules don't say I can't" is not a good excuse to do something and when in doubt, use the less powerful of two people's perspectives on the rules.Iain McGhee
Mongoose
Damn, wish I'd thought of that one I get the point, but it's not quite the same thing. Closest rule is the one that allows out of command figures to rejoin squads if the squad leader gets back within range. Don't see why the sergeant in my example couldn't do similar with the other fire team survivors, given that they belong to the same squad. Can't imagine him going "you three come with me, you stay here and have a fag"
p.s. note that I'm from the U.K. when you read the bit in the quotation marks :wink:
I get the point, but it's not quite the same thing. Closest rule is the one that allows out of command figures to rejoin squads if the squad leader gets back within range. Don't see why the sergeant in my example couldn't do similar with the other fire team survivors, given that they belong to the same squad. Can't imagine him going "you three come with me, you stay here and have a fag" p.s. note that I'm from the U.K. when you read the bit in the quotation marks :wink:
Rabidchild
Mongoose
Well that is a good point you bring up, and honestly I've always thought it a bit silly that there wasn't a specific rule for rejoining fireteams. In your example the squad leader allows his stray squaddies to act again when he moves to bring them inside his command range. The reason it doesn't work with fire teams is that when fire teams split off, the sergeant is not the squad leader for team 2 any more, some other model is.
Rules aside, I see what you are saying and agree. (noted you are from the U.K. :lol: )
Rules aside, I see what you are saying and agree.
(noted you are from the U.K. :lol: )HyperBunnyFreakOut
Mongoose
Has there been a "official" ruling on this yet?
I don't play MC or WaW, but why would anyone need a rule for the obvious?
If a squad splits, why couldn't it reform? Is splitting a one way street?
I would even allow a single soldier from Squad A to join squad F later in the game if his whole squad was wiped out. Squad F isn't going to run by him and not let him join.
If a squad splits, why couldn't it reform? Is splitting a one way street?
I would even allow a single soldier from Squad A to join squad F later in the game if his whole squad was wiped out. Squad F isn't going to run by him and not let him join.
HyperBunnyFreakOut
Mongoose
We do play it that squads can split into teams then reform in a later turn (we do not allow squads to split and reform in the same turn, for Reaction reasons). I was just asking to see if this was made official or not.
Vegabond, I thought about that second part two. Why not let a single squadie or two left over join up with a different squad that moves by. But then reasoned against it. I just picture that last guy or guys as broken spirited, hugging the ground, and praying to make it through the day.
Also thought about letting Command Section officers Promote new unit leaders to create squads from out of command models like in the old starship trooper game. But nothing got tried on the table top.[/quote]
Vegabond, I thought about that second part two. Why not let a single squadie or two left over join up with a different squad that moves by. But then reasoned against it. I just picture that last guy or guys as broken spirited, hugging the ground, and praying to make it through the day.
Also thought about letting Command Section officers Promote new unit leaders to create squads from out of command models like in the old starship trooper game. But nothing got tried on the table top.[/quote]
Hyperbunny,
I'm usually very by the book. Since SST is dead I'm trying to find all the Official Info I can and then I'll fill in the holes as they come up. In doing this I realized, sometimes by the book isn't always as fun. I guess I'm trying to say, it's your game, do whatever is fun for you and the people you play with.
I'm usually very by the book. Since SST is dead I'm trying to find all the Official Info I can and then I'll fill in the holes as they come up. In doing this I realized, sometimes by the book isn't always as fun. I guess I'm trying to say, it's your game, do whatever is fun for you and the people you play with.
play the game in the spirit of the game, its your game and aslong as no clear advantage or game quirk is caused by rejoining a fireteam there should be no problem, as yet ive not ever found a reason to rejoin a fireteam as they often operate so far away from each other, or begin and stay as one fireteam all game.
